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  • Leopard
    Leopard Posts: 1,786 Forumite
    edited 24 August 2009 at 2:19PM

    Thanks, BikerEd, for that link - and, indeed, for many other items of advice and feedback that you've posted which I've found most helpful. :money:

    My own greatest concern is whether all my third-party hardware will run on it without new drivers, which may or may not be offered by their manufacturers.

    (In particular, my Konica Minolta 5430DL laser printer, for which Mac support seems to be dwindling alarmingly after changes of name and the corporate ownership of Konica Minolta. :( )


    By the way, the Apple Online Store was closed for a couple of hours this morning, displaying the message: "We'll be back soon. We are busy updating the store for you and will be back shortly."

    It's now back up and is featuring OS 10.6 Snow Leopard worldwide. It will indeed be released on 28 August and will cost £25 for the upgrade. The Mac Box Set will cost £129 but it's not been made clear whether this includes a full, standalone, install version of OS 10.6 or just the upgrader. Maybe a 10.5.8 installer plus the 10.6 upgrader?

    Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:

    As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
    you'd now be better off living in one.

  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    Leopard wrote: »

    Thanks, BikerEd, for that link - and, indeed, for many other items of advice and feedback that you've posted which I've found most helpful. :money:

    My own greatest concern is whether all my third-party hardware will run on it without new drivers, which may or may not be offered by their manufacturers.

    (In particular, my Konica Minolta 5430DL laser printer, for which Mac support seems to be dwindling alarmingly after changes of name and the corporate ownership of Konica Minolta. :( )


    By the way, the Apple Online Store was closed for a couple of hours this morning, displaying the message: "We'll be back soon. We are busy updating the store for you and will be back shortly."

    It's now back up and is featuring OS 10.6 Snow Leopard worldwide. It will indeed be released on 28 August and will cost £25 for the upgrade. The Mac Box Set will cost £129 but it's not been made clear whether this includes a full, standalone, install version of OS 10.6 or just the upgrader. Maybe a 10.5.8 installer plus the 10.6 upgrader?

    Beats me why it takes Apple 2 hours to convert $29 to sterling-and still get it wrong. At todays rate that should be £17.58. Which is presumably why we thought it was going to be £19. Is it just me, or do others really resent this continual exchange rate rip off?
    Having said that, I've swallowed my pride and pre-ordered it!
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • nomoneytoday
    nomoneytoday Posts: 4,871 Forumite
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    Don't forget the $29 doesn't include any taxes or VAT.
    $29 is £18 odd plus 2.70 VAT (nearly £21)

    Add on the standard UK rip off factor and £25 isn't too bad. Obviously £19 would be nicerer :)
  • Leopard
    Leopard Posts: 1,786 Forumite

    It's probably been priced to accommodate what's going to happen to the British economy and the value of the £ after the next election. :(

    Don't laugh at banana republics. :rotfl:

    As a result of how you voted in the last three General Elections,
    you'd now be better off living in one.

  • nomoneytoday
    nomoneytoday Posts: 4,871 Forumite
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    Leopard wrote: »
    It's probably been priced to accommodate what's going to happen to the British economy and the value of the £ after Winky and Eyebrow play with the economy some more :(

    Edited for accuracy ;)
  • duncansby
    duncansby Posts: 292 Forumite
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    Big thanks to all - have ordered for 7.95 using up to date program which I had never heard of before.
  • teddyco
    teddyco Posts: 397 Forumite
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    Seeing that Apple is trying to beat the release of Windows 7 sometime later this year, I think I'll wait a few month's and let all the excitement calm down before I upgrade. This will also allow all the potential bugs to be worked out and maybe even a price drop before Christmas?
  • Marty_J
    Marty_J Posts: 6,594 Forumite
    edited 24 August 2009 at 8:42PM
    teddyco wrote: »
    Seeing that Apple is trying to beat the release of Windows 7 sometime later this year, I think I'll wait a few month's and let all the excitement calm down before I upgrade. This will also allow all the potential bugs to be worked out and maybe even a price drop before Christmas?

    Doubtful the price is going to come down from £25, but we'll probably see OS X 10.6.1 before the end of the year.

    Apple have taken two years developing Snow Leopard (compared with a yearly release cycle for all the previous updates), so it's not as though they're rushing it.
  • newfoundglory
    newfoundglory Posts: 1,912 Forumite
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    edited 24 August 2009 at 11:10PM
    Apple may well have spent nearly 2 years developing snow leopard.... an optimised version of leopard.... but as someone who owns several macs I guarantee this will be a buggy and crash prone "upgrade"

    why? its a move to full 64-bit. a 64 bit kernel and finder and safari and quicktime. This will be for all intel macs, apart for a few Intel core solo Mac minis from the early days of the intel switch which only have 32 bit processors.

    As far as I understand it, Snow Leopard as it stands is incomplete - not all 64bit Macs will boot from the 64bit kernel... but the shipping version will be set to boot the 32bit kernel on all consumer macs anyway. But you can still run 64 bit applications on a 32 bit kernel. I would imagine there are also 64bit driver issues as a result of the above... as a 64bit kernel implies that all hardware drivers would also have to be 64bit. And thats a lot of work.

    I get the impression 10.6 needed another 4 to 8 weeks of development and testing time. We'll see 10.6.1 within 6 weeks I reckon... not a show-stopper, but I'm going to wait for a few updates before I even consider upgrading.
  • fox2319
    fox2319 Posts: 978 Forumite
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    teddyco wrote: »
    Seeing that Apple is trying to beat the release of Windows 7 sometime later this year,
    Apple beat Windows 7 already...

    Seriously though, getting Snow Leopard for the macbook and currently running Win7 RC 64bit on a Q6600 gaming PC. Better than vista, but the amount of times I see something it's done and think "That's similar to Leopard..."
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