MSE Parents Club Part 5

Lu_T

Hi girls. Just don't get the time to contribute these days but wanted to add to the 'things went wrong' debate.

We both only wanted two children and I would have had an IUS after Alex but with what happened to me OH is now even more adamant he couldn't put me through that again. He will never forget driving to the hospital thinking, "How am I going to cope on my own with two kids under 3?" so he has an appt for a permanent solution in mid-September.

He always said he'd have the snip at some point, but the problems with me after Alex's birth have made him bring that day forward.

Hope you're all well and babies are doing good. Alex is 6 weeks tomorrow so I can start to drive again (hurrah!). His colic seems to be clearing (hurrah again!). He's just finished a big feed and is snoozing in his P&T cocoon.

redmel1621

weezl74 wrote: »

are you less of a fan of HB than me and searching then?;)

And me:D

Stop talking about having more babies:rolleyes: You all know how broody I am ALL the time:o
In fact I have actually shoved a test onto my shopping for tomorrow (just to check) I am not very regular anyway so probably just my funny body but it's been 6 wks now......although we have been careful (mostly:whistle:)

Anyway thought it best to check, before I phone this Uni back tomorrow to see if they are actually going to offer me a place or not:cool:


Weezl - glad you had a good weekend

MM - have a good time camping.....I can't wait to get a car again so I can go camping, I absolutely love it:D I feel all sorry for our gear sat up in the attic all unused and unloved!

Mel x

SugarSpun

Adding to the "things went wrong" discussion: Husband is getting great mileage out of telling everyone that when he made it to the recovery ward to see me after the birth the first thing I said to him was, I want to do this again.

I'm upset at how things went, horrified that we almost lost the baby at that late stage, incredibly relieved that we didn't, terrified that it might happen again in the future, afraid of going through it all again - but I think it might be worth it. I'd like to have at least two kids, and although this one's pretty exhausting right now she's so wonderful that I can't imagine stopping with her.

weezl74

Sami_Bee wrote: »

ooh so I'm sure you're dying to share what did it cost per serving? (don't go working it out if you haven't already tho )

thanks for the cherry info, I think I'm gonna cheat and microwave them for a couple of mins to soften them and save on washing up

it was only a bit harder, Chris was a very easy preg/birth and Ed was 'just' easy I'd still go for a HB if there's a next time (whilst crossing my fingers that it didn't follow a trend and be nearly 1.5lb heaver than Ed as he was than Chris)

Glad you had a nice WE

It was an astounding 26p per serving (don't tell my brother, I want him to feel spoiled!

Hope your cherry pie was damned fine (are you too young to remember the odd but strangely addictive 'twin peaks'?):D

Oh I'm glad it was 'just' easy ;) But I really get you on the 1.5lb heavier thing- gulp!

elle_gee wrote: »

Can I ask, MM, did they ever warn you of the possibility something like what happened to Dylan could happen with a planned c-section? With the emergency one, all I got was "You could die, we might have to take everything out, but you'll probably be fine.. oh, and the SCBU staff will deal with the baby" - no mention of what might be wrong with him.

I've spoken to a few medics about the swiftness of consent for crash sections. They are usually very ethical people, who've struggled with how little you can say, because every second counts. They mostly seem to err on the side of, 'I tried not to throw you or worry you or provoke more discussion at a time when you just needed me to act, and darned quickly'.

I think it's a shame it's like this, but I kind of understand where they are coming from. If my recommendation for those extra NICE guidelines is taken up, maybe I'll say more about consenting for crash sections!:D (any member of the public can make suggestions to the NICE committee, I'm not secretly in charge of the NHS or anything

Incidentally elle, I think that if you want to, there are ways of being clearer about whether the VP could recur in a subsequent pregnancy. My understanding is that some of the triggers are things which just as easily can happen to Jane up the road who's never had it before in her second pregnancy, and other triggers are to do with things which are true of second pregnancies as well. But you would be able to work that out and weigh up the relative risks yourself.

I hope I haven't overstepped a line in saying that to you. I just want you to have as many facts as you need and want to be able to make your decision. I offer you these thoughts gently, and with lots of love and respect.:o

money_maker wrote: »

No warning at all. The only thing that was discussed was the extra drugs I was going to get to stop me losing a lot of blood again like the 1st time.
I did read up a lot about it after wards though, and 50% of section babies get fluid in their lungs and 1% of them get ti as bad as Dylan did. He was just really unlucky

MM, have you been offered any further explanations and chats by the hospital? I know that in some trusts a woman who has a previous traumatic birth is entitled to review her notes with a consultant available to answer questions. However you may be happy doing your own research.

scruffy96uk

Mrs M Bizzie baby will eventually send you a questionnaire but might take some time.

Mrs_Moc

I want to just add my twopence worth to the "things going wrong debate" as well.

I spent the last 4 months of my pregnancy in hospital with major placenta previa, during which time I had many haemorrhages. I always knew the delivery would be a CS during an emergency because I insisted on going on with the pregnancy for as long as I could instead of taking a scheduled CS. I was extremely lucky to get to 36 weeks. Im still having nightmares about it regularly.

Even though I was forewarned, nothing could have prepared me for the day she born, eventually the whole experience became surreal.

I know the hospital had to tell me that my placenta would haemorrhage badly during the CS and that I may not survive it, but the terror I felt going into the operation is unforgettable. I honestly do still feel traumatised, and go over the events in my head regularly. Friends and family have suggested counselling but it really wouldnt be my thing.

Thankfully we were both fine, for which im very grateful, but the experience has left me scared for life. We originally said we would like 6 kids, but we are now in agreement that the 4th was the last.

We were also told it was not recommended to have anymore as the chances of having the condition twice was 1 in 10, compared to 1 in 2500 for having it once.

redmel1621

weezl74 wrote: »

It was an astounding 26p per serving (don't tell my brother, I want him to feel spoiled!

Hope your cherry pie was damned fine (are you too young to remember the odd but strangely addictive 'twin peaks'?):D

Yay...I don't know how you manage to do things so cheap, it's very impressive.

My dh will be very impressed with you for 'liking' Twin Peaks It one of his favourite series of all time, and the films too:p

I think I may have been a bit young when they were actually on tv to take any notice of them (what year were they aired?)

My_Fathers_Daughter

weezl74 wrote: »

I hope I haven't overstepped a line in saying that to you. I just want you to have as many facts as you need and want to be able to make your decision. I offer you these thoughts gently, and with lots of love and respect.:o

I love you so much Weezl :kisses3:


Hello everyone :hello: nothing much to say but hello anyway

Sami_Bee

weezl74 wrote: »

It was an astounding 26p per serving (don't tell my brother, I want him to feel spoiled! ooh thats faboo :T

Hope your cherry pie was damned fine (are you too young to remember the odd but strangely addictive 'twin peaks'?):D
It was yummy! I just chucked my cherries in my dish zapped for 2mins tasted and decided a squeeze of honey was required, crumble on top and a spot of nutmeg and popped in oven. It always kills me waiting for it too cool though an unfortunately we've no custard yes I'm a bit young for it I've heard of it though

Oh I'm glad it was 'just' easy ;) But I really get you on the 1.5lb heavier thing- gulp!

you're such a sweetie

money_maker_3

weezl74 wrote: »

MM, have you been offered any further explanations and chats by the hospital? I know that in some trusts a woman who has a previous traumatic birth is entitled to review her notes with a consultant available to answer questions. However you may be happy doing your own research.

We did have a chat about the future and the things that we have to look out for with the consultant. I did talk to my HV about it in detail last week after she told me the details, and nothing could have prevented Dylan getting it other than labour :rolleyes:
I guess my main reason for feeling bad about it is that a week before my section, they gave me the option for a trial labour if I wanted, but it would probably end in a section anyway, so I opted not to, but that alone could have been enough to stop him having it as bad as it was. I may talk it over with someone if I do have another, as I will have to go for a section next time again as even with the extra drugs this time, I still bled a lot, just not as much as last time.
Thanks though If your bored some day, you could do more research than me, you seem to enjoy it more :rotfl: