Hand luggage only discussion

rkmoitra

Hi

Does anybody know whether you can wear your ski boots through airport security?

Incapuppy

rkmoitra wrote: »

Hi

Does anybody know whether you can wear your ski boots through airport security?

I should think that would be

1. Very uncomfortable, and
2. Taking the p***

peterbaker

rkmoitra wrote: »

Hi

Does anybody know whether you can wear your ski boots through airport security?

That's a great question and I cannot imagine any airline/airport yet having made a specific rule against it

Once upon a time you could perhaps have just donned the boots for the few moments it took to get into the security area i.e. to get past any handbag weight and dimensions checker on the way in. You'd have been told you'll have to take them off to put them through the scanner, but the jobsworths might not have been told to say more than that. You could then have put your normal shoes on there and then perhaps and carried the ski-boots without fear of a challenge about how you got them airside.

Once you were past that single checker, all weight and dimensions rules were once upon a time 'out the window', but now ...

Because of the much more recent 'one handbag for everything even your airport shopping'. You'd have to be wearing your ski boots as you pass through the gate and at that stage I reckon they might easily stop you on the grounds that you were a danger to yourself and others because of the steps you are about to negotiate if for no other reason

On the other hand, they are so explicit-rules and unbending-procedure based that until there is a dictate from above just for ski-boots, the jobsworths mightn't even dream of making a broad safety-first decision on their own :rolleyes:

But seriously, I think next Winter's European ski season potentially requires a rethink with the new 2009 inflexibility we have seen in the application of handbag rules which have changed the problem for us canny lo-co travellers from something akin to sleek cats strolling effortlessly through a single set of narrow 20cm railings (or none at all) to one where we are forced to squeeze ourselves or at least our bags through a long 20cm diameter drainpipe before we can board :eek:. (Metaphorically speaking of course - it isn't quite as bad as this just yet!)

Winter sports require changes of less than light clothing - unless a stinking cabin on the way back is to be part of the offer. We all know that it is easy to travel light in the summer, and all airlines especially lo-cos have traditionally tried to attract and accommodate skiers by allowing skis to be carried with no fuss for example.

I perfectly understand why a skier would want to take their own boots even if they don't have their own skis. However, I suppose that only a small percentage would decide not to travel because they can't easily take their own boots for free. The lo-co answer has always been to pay to check them into the hold I guess.

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richardw wrote: »

The liquid/gel allowance is 1000ml, BUT each container of liquid/gel must not exceed 100ml. Do you need more than that because of your skin allergy?

You can do 2 separate bottles of shampoo 100ml each, if you need a total of 200ml for your trip.

Hi Richardw

where did you find this info? We are flying wtih Easyjet and I was thinking the same thing - is it just one bottle of 100ml or could you have a few bottles of 100ml?

Easyjet's website doesn't make it clear - they do say "all liquid containers" but don't say the limit....

can anyone confirm absolutely?


http://www.easyjet.com/EN/Planning/baggage.html
Liquids in hand baggage are subject to the following government-imposed restrictions:
The liquid is in a container with a maximum volume of 100ml

All liquid containers meeting the maximum volume of 100ml can be fitted comfortably into a transparent, re-sealable 1 litre plastic bag, measuring 20cmx20cm.

The plastic bag should be presented separately at security

You will be required to dispose of liquids which do not meet the above requirements at the airport security station.

Incapuppy

GoldenJill wrote: »

is it just one bottle of 100ml or could you have a few bottles of 100ml?

Easyjet's website doesn't make it clear - they do say "all liquid containers" but don't say the limit....

can anyone confirm absolutely?


.

Have you checked your departure airport's website as I suggested in your other thread?

peterbaker

GoldenJill,

The clear plastic bags which they sometimes (maybe currently) give out at Stansted are known as 1 litre bags (1000ml). They have the a plastic zip type top. I suppose if you filled one with water and managed to zip it up, it would contain a litre of water which incidentally would weigh exactly 1kg = 1000g ... bear with me, there's a reason I am mentioning grammes as well as millilitres ... read on ...

You are of course not going to fill the plastic bag with water but just pack in as many 100ml (or less) bottles as you can and still be able to zip it up and take it out of your handbaggage and present it separately to the security man or lady on the handbaggage screening line.

So, the answer to your question is you can pack into the plastic bag as many 100ml (or less) bottles as is possible and still be able to close it.

I have in my hand such a plastic bag issued by Stansted themselves. It is approximately 18.5cm x 18.5cm in case you want to find one of your own before you get there. If yours was 20 x 20 I don't think they'd notice.

The main thing is that the bag should be re-sealable and no one item within it should exceed 100ml capacity.

Now then, what to put in it, and what not?

Well most supermarket toothpaste tubes are 100ml, so they are ok. I usually take a part used one so I can fold the tube in half making sure the pointy corners at the bottom of the tube don't mess up the plastic bag.

Obviously if you have any perfume or shampoo or liquid soap or contact lens cleaner or roll-on-deodorant or shaving foam then they must go in this bag or not travel in handbaggage.

An interesting one (I think) is the other stick-type deodorant. My gf told me not to waste valuable plastic bag space with my stick deodorant (which isn't a gel but is a waxy consistency as you know). It seems she is right as I have never been stopped for leaving mine inside the handbaggage undeclared.

Now then, when is a millilitre not an ml but a g perhaps? As I said before, scientists will confirm that on dear old planet Earth a millilitre of water weighs exactly a gramme. Obviously some liquids and gels are more or less dense than water but generally speaking for the purposes of this discussion, not by much. So some gels will be marked in grammes. For grammes just read millilitres is what I am saying. OK?

Something I have occasionally been stopped for but always let through is when I have a number of times been carrying an undeclared Asda Crispy Duck kit in a sealed Asda Crispy Duck bag - I have never been asked to open one up but there is in fact an undeclared sachet of hoisin sauce in it which is probably 100ml

Reason I used to carry Crispy Duck is because there was someone at the other end who likes it but can't easily get it locally, plus it was only £4.87 at Asda (its gone up now )

And finally, I will admit to have been a bit of a cleverdick and as a plea to keep it, tried to use an on the fly clarification of the physics involved when I carried through one of those picnic freezer blocks (before you ask, it was to keep the Crispy Duck cool of course :rotfl:)

I tried to argue that the freezer block was a solid, not a gel and not a liquid and that there was no way that it would become so during my trip unless
(a) Mr O'Leary delayed me for two days or
(b) Mr O'Leary kindly fed it through one of his engines for me.

They weren't impressed and took the block from me. I had the final smile because it was too wide to put into their normal confiscated objects container and they were getting cold hands deciding what to do with it.

Hey ho.

Feeling clued up and ready to go now, GoldenJill? :money:

PS All that I say applies equally to EasyJet as to Ryanair or any other airline as it is a government imposed airport security restriction checked by the airport not the airline.
PPS Hope I haven't given away any state secrets

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Well written peterbaker! thanks for the info.

deegee999

Just got this from the thomas cook site
Whats included

• 1 piece of hand baggage no bigger than 43cm x 28cm x 23cm and 5kg in weight

are these the smallest dimensions in the uk?

walrusoflove

All this hype about the security risks of liquids and pastes strikes me as nothing more than a ruse to stop people bringing their own refreshments into the airport, forcing them into buying the exorbitant ones airside. The security argument doesn't stack up - assuming for the sake of argument that I wanted to - I could create a far more serious situation by smashing a glass dutyfree bottle into someone than any threat I could pose with my blunt eyebrow tweezers or tube of lipgloss!!

uk_moneyspinner

I'd just like to thank previous contributors to this forum; it helped me in my purchase of a new piece of hand baggage so that I can avoid the hefty fees imposed for hold luggage! A couple of contributors mentioned that quoted dimensions should be ignored - I couldn't agree more, and endorse what people have said about going shopping with a trusty tape measure! I ended up in TKMaxx after reading this forum and ended up with a really great Carlton case - part plastic, part material. It comes well within the dimensions for Ryanair and weighs 3 kilos. It wasn't 'cheap', costing £39, but will pay for itself after just a couple of return flights.

I've also applied for a Visa Electron card and will let you know how I get on with that...

Now, how to avoid the online check-in charge....??

Thanks again everyone!