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MissMoneypenny

Really2 wrote: »

Still others will say the abacus is the first computer. They were invented by the Chinese between 2600 BC and 300 BC is considered as the first computer ever. Abacus was used by the merchants and Clerks in China.

I suppose we could go back even further than that as say that fingers and toes were the first computer:D As we came from stardust, then we would have to credit it to the stars.

Really2 wrote: »

The inventor of the modern computer as we know it. Or electronic computer it was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

I think you might find that that Jobs and Wozniak had a lot to do with the "modern computer".

Although I would like to thank the makers of Cooler Master for building such an easy to fit case. I didn't get any cut fingers when I built my last computer.

Edited to say
Did you know that Alan Turing was born in London too, according to the link you gave?

dacouch

London rocks in so many ways

MissMoneypenny

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

A guy called Davis had invented packet switching and he worked at our National Pyshics Lab. I don't know what area of the UK Davis came from.

I just looked him up on wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Davies

"Davies was born in Treorchy in the Rhondda Valley, Wales. His father, a clerk at a coalmine, died a few months later, and his mother took Donald and his twin sister back to her home town of Portsmouth, where he went to school[1].
He received a BSc degree in physics (1943) at Imperial College London, and then joined the war effort working as an assistant to Klaus Fuchs[1]. on the nuclear weapons Tube Alloys project at Birmingham University[2]. He then returned to Imperial taking a first class degree in mathematics (1947); he was also awarded the Lubbock memorial Prize as the outstanding mathematician of his year.
In 1955, he married Diane Burton.
From 1947, he worked at the National Physical Laboratory where Alan Turing was designing the Automatic Computing Engine (ACE) computer. It is said that Davies spotted mistakes in Turing's seminal 1936 paper On Computable Numbers, much to Turing's annoyance."

Really2

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Edited to say
Did you know that Alan Turing was born in London too, according to the link you gave?

Jobs and Wozniak could not have done anything if an electronic computer had not been invented. (but I really don't want to debate geeks on here. With a career in the computer industry I really don't want to be debating "jobs" and "gates" on an economy and house price forum.)

Yes and conceived in India, you missed that bit.;)

But as everything if the midlands had not invented the industrial age you would still be throwing poo at each other eating jellied eels (oh you still do):D

It is well know that the rest of the UK invented London so we had a place to send all the people with an over grown sense of importance.
While we get on blisfully aware we don't have to slog our selves to death to be able to live and breath in air not filled with god knows what.:D

PS PC cases have been "non bleed to death" for about the last 7 years providing you spend over £20.


PPS you could not argue fingers as computer as no one invented them and you can not give them to someone else to use then have them back.. Also they are fairly poor for going over 10 with.:)

ILW

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Hey, no-one whines like an out of work coal miner t'up north...

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There are still a few printers from Fleet street/Wapping who are conviced they are going to get their old jobs back.

Phirefly

honved wrote: »

I love the midlands. Where else are you referred to as "me duck" in your local paper shop? And it's in the middle, so you can get oop north and down sarf easier (sound of barrel being scraped...).

It may be barrel scraping but its relevant. Being self-employed, living in the midlands is good, almost essential, for my business as I have clients all over the UK. I can meet with them and be home in a day without too much effort. Likewise for my friends who are scattered to the 4 corners, I'm never more than about 2 hours max from any of them (living by the airport helps).

Mr P is from Kent and if we'd settled there, the midlands pipedream 'maybe one day' homes would be utterly unthinkable. And as I've said before, I'd sooner settle in Helmand Province than in the same county as the in-laws...

PayDay

Really2 wrote: »

I would credit the inventors of long distance data transfer as the inventors of the internet not WWW.

Really2 wrote: »

With a career in the computer industry

A career working in PC World?:D Even I knew that the internet was not the same thing as the WWW.

Really2

PayDay wrote: »

A career working in PC World?:D Even I knew that the internet was not the same thing as the WWW.

Did I say they were the same? www is a part of the internet so I am saying crediting www is fairly pointless because without the internet it would not exist.:rolleyes: (unless you are just trying to make London look like the bearers of technology)

www would have happened anyway! it would just not have been known as https://www.:rolleyes:

The main thing with any technology is having the the underlying solution there. EG the wheel, would cars have been invented without it? no! (cue "the wheel was invented in London post by Ted Caveman":D)

Without long range data transfer and packet transfer www would never have happened.:rolleyes:

Much like if your Mom and Dad never met the above post would of never happened.:)

So what do you do? (but I should add the internet is not of any interest for my job, virtualization is at the moment.)

PS why the hell was the inventor of WWW brought up anyway? oh I remember to make out the internet was invented by a Londoner
Most non computer people recognise WWW as the internet because that is what they use.:rolleyes:

PayDay

Really2 wrote: »

Did I say they were the same?

Yes, when you confused data transfer with the WWW and Internet

Really2 wrote: »

PS why the hell was the inventor of WWW brought up anyway? oh I remember to make out the internet was invented by a Londoner

:DThe WWW and the Internet are not the same thing. The WWW was bought up as it's inventeo came from London. You are the one who bought up the Internet, when you confused the WWW with the Internet:D

When you are in a hole, stop digging.

Really2

PayDay wrote: »

Yes, when you confused data transfer with the WWW and Internet




:DThe WWW and the Internet are not the same thing. The WWW was bought up as it's inventeo came from London. You are the one who bought up the Internet, when you confused the WWW with the Internet:D

No, I said why was the inventor of WWW brought up, not the invention of the internet (it was not me)?
But then why read when you can make out otherwise.:D

99% of peoples experience of the internet is through WWW as it is part of the internet and the only inerface they will use.

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

Emmm....the computer for one. Charles Babbage was born in London
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage

Perhaps you mean the first computer programmer came from the NW, Ada Lovelace? No...just checked and she was from London too. Had to be I suppose, as she encouraged Charles Babbage, above.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

The WWW perhaps? No... sorry......Tim Berners-Lee is a Londoner too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee

so why was the the inventor of WWW brought up. I thought it was brought up to make out that a Londoner invented the internet.

If that was not the case fair enough, but I still cant work out why it was brought up?