Alcohol self help thread II

mjdh1957

brodev wrote:

I see lots of times people disagreeing about "words"........alcoholic, victim, disease etc........ We all have our own ideas of what these words mean and we all differ. I think that we can all agree that whether or not alcoholism is a "disease" or not it is certainly a "dis-ease"

Very true, I know what I mean by these words, it may not be exactly what anyone else means.

In my mind, I am not (now) a victim, though in the past I certainly acted like one.

I am not an alcoholic (at least, using any definition I've heard of), but in the past I had a problem with drinking, and it makes me ill so now I choose not to drink alcohol.

beer2006

mjdh1957 wrote:

And it gave him something else to ctiticise me for....

Can you explain please?

Do you mean you wanted to give him a reason to criticise you? Because that way it allowed him to drink more?

I'm sort of creeping like a man in a dark room, with one had in front of me here.


That dis-ease, that sounds like a AA thing?

I don't think its bad we disagree, I don't want to have an argument about it, but I'm allowed to put my own point over, I'm not doing it in a argumentative way, I am merely stating what I believe and giving reasons for that. Its called debating.


btw lewt, whats jk? And whats kicking off

jayne.doe

beer2006 wrote:

Thats true, there is no way on earth I'm giving any of you lot unconditional love!
Well not the blokes anyway sorry Micheal, I'm short and fat anyway :rolleyes:
The girlies can apply seperately Damn, I've just said I'm short and fat :rotfl:

Okay i dont mind the fat but how short, im only 5ft 2 and by now i am used to looking up:D

jayne.doe

btw lewt, whats jk? And whats kicking off

i have been wondering what jk is all afternoon, can you tell us lewt.:rotfl:

Kicking off - is like losing your temper.

lewt

beer2006 wrote:

I disagree and heres why.
Not everyone, but alot of people who are alcoholics have other problems, they normally drink because of these problems. Now these problems are usually down to events in their life............. so how could they be born with it.

I know an awful long time ago I said to Al its a disease its not your fault. But I never believed that really. I believe its no-ones fault because these events have happened to you in the past, but its not a disease, I wonder if the reports of family inheritance are nothing more than social problems passed down.

Anyway, my two pence worth.

I used to think the same but my thinking has changed. other people go through some horific times in their lifes worse than me and they didnt/dont use drink/drugs to try and block it out. i realise noe that when i used to think like that i was making excuses for my drinking and using. in the end if something really small happened, like the postman being late, i'd think "thats was a bit of an ordeal, i better skin up or pour a drink"

i have always been reastless irrtible and discontent since i was a baby, my mum used to say i had no stop button. and i now understand that to be the spirtual part of the illness of alcoholism. which is why i think i was born with it. i agree that i devloped the physical addiction to it when my bodie needed it or i was sick for 2 days risking seizue if i had no benzo's. but the physical alergy to alcohol i have always had. i have never drunk like my sister dad or mother, or wife to that matter i have always drank for the affect. i loved the fact that it took all the head trouble away at the beggining and i fitting in. not that i didnt anyway but i always felt a mixture of less than, but supoirer if you know what i mean. like i was speacial. but i never felt that people liked me. drink took that away for years . but in the end everything drink gave me it took away double.

today i dont have that head trouble (alot) as i have certain tools to use when i get negitive thoughts. also my god is a wicked thing in my life. i wouldnt be six months yeaterday without him.

lewt

jeramy kile, if you wanna see ubtreated alcoholism at its worse watch it.

habibi_2

beer2006 wrote:

Was this because of the drink? I mean did you hit him because he was drinking?

It's livened up a bit on here, It's good we can all be honest and it gets me thinking.

He was drinking when I hit him but I hit him because I could not get the better of him with my tongue. He always had an answer and, when drinking, could be very cruel. He knew exactly what to say for maximum impact and which buttons to press. I got so angry and frustrated that I lashed out. I literally saw red a couple of times - That's when I had to learn to deal with my anger and also not argue with someone who had been drinking - in those days that was almost impossible for me.

I have heard several AAs share that they were determined not to grow up like their alcoholic parent yet somehow they did. Very often there is a drink problem in the family somewhere. Sometimes it skips a generation but it is lurking there somewhere

It would be good to hear a bit of eveyone's story - I know you've probably told them before but I'd like to know. Thanks

beer2006

jayne.doe wrote:

Okay i dont mind the fat but how short, im only 5ft 2 and by now i am used to looking up:D

Don't wear your high heels then, lets put it that way
Anyway, sorry, someones already applied and the job has been taken :rotfl: yeah right


I know what "kicking off" is I was asking "what is kicking off?"

:rolleyes:


OH JK! I hate that program, that and casualty!

beer2006

My Story, didn't drink till 17. Started working away from home at 18, lived in b&b's for most of next 8 yrs during the week, drunk everynight, came home lived with 2 blokes drunk every weekend night.
Lived with GF, said I would stop, didn't, said I would stop when baby was born, didn't, was unhappy most of my life, was shy.... what I now know as social phobia, I was bullied at school, have had a good work life for a long time, now am self employed and at this moment have never been happier.

Chrismojam

jayne.doe wrote:

Okay i dont mind the fat but how short, im only 5ft 2 and by now i am used to looking up:D

Lol!! oh that's just tickled me for some reason:rolleyes: