Car and wife hit by another car!

mikey72

goldspanners wrote: »

but in reality the guy driving past too fast or close will loose his liscence and might get a fine or short jail sentence,but you on the other hand could loose your child. regardless of what someone else should be doing,you should be on the look out for yourself and your own. do what you can to protect your kids, dont rely on others to care about them.

Apart from the over dramatisation by a few, the child was in no danger, unless the passing cars could actually hit them in the childseat in the back of the car.
As the OP said, and any normal parent would be, the wife was the one in the doorway, checking the child in the seat. Makes no odds which side the child got in from.
If the parent decides to let them climb over, or waits until the road is clear, walks round then bundles them into the car, if later a car appears, when the child is safely in the car, so what.
If the OP had said his wife pushed the child into the path on the oncoming car, or ran into the traffic and threw the door open, whilst dragging the child with them, I'd agree with you.

cyclonebri1

mikey72 wrote: »

Apart from the over dramatisation by a few, the child was in no danger, unless the passing cars could actually hit them in the childseat in the back of the car.
As the OP said, and any normal parent would be, the wife was the one in the doorway, checking the child in the seat. Makes no odds which side the child got in from.
If the parent decides to let them climb over, or waits until the road is clear, walks round then bundles them into the car, if later a car appears, when the child is safely in the car, so what.
If the OP had said his wife pushed the child into the path on the oncoming car, or ran into the traffic and threw the door open, whilst dragging the child with them, I'd agree with you.

Maybe thats the only reason we can see for someone, (on a cul de sac remember), hitting the door of a stationary car. The insurance have obviously had a different story from the other guy or they would not be responding in the way they are?

I live 150 yds from an infant school on a busy road, steep hill, tight bend at the top, double whites down the middle. You really should see the antics at 3.30 in the afternoon, and yes there have been accidents. My comments are made because school runners seem to have a total disregard for anyone else at these 2 times of day, only they and thier immediate offspring are on thier minds:mad:
I don't like the screech of brakes and tyres and don't want to see anyone especially a child injured or worse.

cyclonebri1

Stolen_Soul wrote: »

Oh how we're all so perfect.

What if the OP's wife was crossing the road with the child and this moron came down the road and used the excuse 'we didn't see you'??
Would you condem her for having the audacity to cross the road with the child? Would you sh!te. You bunch of self-righteous pompus prats.

Someone stolen your ar**soul:rotfl:

mikey72

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Maybe thats the only reason we can see for someone, (on a cul de sac remember), hitting the door of a stationary car. The insurance have obviously had a different story from the other guy or they would not be responding in the way they are?

I live 150 yds from an infant school on a busy road, steep hill, tight bend at the top, double whites down the middle. You really should see the antics at 3.30 in the afternoon, and yes there have been accidents. My comments are made because school runners seem to have a total disregard for anyone else at these 2 times of day, only they and thier immediate offspring are on thier minds:mad:
I don't like the screech of brakes and tyres and don't want to see anyone especially a child injured or worse.

I'm afraid it is now becoming surreal. A moving car hits a stationary, parked car, and you are now argueing the the parked car is at fault and should be liable. I'll bow out now, as I can't think of any logical answer to that one.

bestpud

Paradigm wrote: »

I appreciate what your saying but it happens &, I'm not going into the rights or wrongs, we've all seen it...... outside every school!! I know it, You know it so why is everyone jumping on the OP when it's the other driver needs educating?

School at letting out times is a dangerous place & if you don't expect this situation then........

Yep, because of idiots thinking it acceptable to open their door into narrow roads!

Still doesn't answer the question of why the thread is so full of posts so eager to criticise but yet not answer the question?

The answer to the question is very simple as I see it!

He doesn't want to leave insurers out and pay for the damage because he doesn't believe his wife was liable for the damage she caused to the parked car! Rather he thinks the wife of the OP is to blame for having her door opened into the road and wants the OP, or OP's insurer to pay for the damage to his car.

In short, they clearly think it is a blimming cheek for the OP to expect them to take the full blame!

Isn't that obvious?

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Maybe thats the only reason we can see for someone, (on a cul de sac remember), hitting the door of a stationary car. The insurance have obviously had a different story from the other guy or they would not be responding in the way they are?

Exactly! And of course the parents would stick up for each other! It sems they all do the same and feel it is their right!

I live 150 yds from an infant school on a busy road, steep hill, tight bend at the top, double whites down the middle. You really should see the antics at 3.30 in the afternoon, and yes there have been accidents. My comments are made because school runners seem to have a total disregard for anyone else at these 2 times of day, only they and thier immediate offspring are on thier minds:mad:
I don't like the screech of brakes and tyres and don't want to see anyone especially a child injured or worse.

Tell me about it - you'll never see such a bunch of muppets together as when observing a school run!

mikey72 wrote: »

I'm afraid it is now becoming surreal. A moving car hits a stationary, parked car, and you are now argueing the the parked car is at fault and should be liable. I'll bow out now, as I can't think of any logical answer to that one.

The surreal thing for me is people think it is acceptable to open their door into the road because doing otherwise is an inconvenience!

ailuro2

I can hand on heart say I have never ever strapped my child into their carseat from the road side of our car. I can see why it would cause a problem, so don't do it.:A

Our DD is 10 now and doesn't need any child seats any more, but still scoots across the back seat to get out at the pavement side of the road, or indeed the side of the car that isn't parked next to someone else's door if we're parked in a car park and there's space.. The child lock is still on in the roadside door to avoid any lack of thought on her behalf.;)

Hindsight IS indeed a wonderful thing, and for all of those reading this suggesting those who do it the safe way are perfect, then thank you very much - I wouldn't say I was perfect, far from it, but I do try to think in advance about any accidents that might happen and try to avoid them where I can.

Yes, I agree the OP's wife wasn't all to blame because the other driver failed to see her, the reason other people on here are ranting is because the accident could have been easily avoided, and we wouldn't be going through 4 pages of other people voicing their opinions.

And you wouldn't be ringing up your insurer or having to take the car in to get fixed.

Next time it's raining and visibility is poor, load the kids from the pavement and then put the air blowers on to dry off the raindrops.:D

ps I type as someone who lives next to a school and see how many parents do exactly the same thing, knowing that other parents come haring up the hill to pick up their kids, and there have been a number of prans over the 10 years we've lived here.

alwaysonthego_2

Stolen_Soul wrote: »

So you never open a car door into the road, ever? I only open the car door into the road when I am getting in the car myself and I make sure it is clear and safe.I have never put my children into the roadside car door so because I value their lives and do not want to cause an accident.

This thread is typical of the idiots that now frequent this site. As I said before, self - righteous prats.At least we don't have to resort for foul language and insults to get our point across unlike you. What a charming person, not!

The OP came here for advice on insurance. Not a lecture about how naughty his wife is. and we are saying that the op's wife was not entirely innocent so I do not know how you don't think this is related to the op's question

I am also perfect!

bestpud

Stolen_Soul wrote: »

So you never open a car door into the road, ever?

This thread is typical of the idiots that now frequent this site. As I said before, self - righteous prats.

The OP came here for advice on insurance. Not a lecture about how naughty his wife is.

I am sure I have at some point, but not to strap my child in. I have always squeezed myself into the back to do that.

The difference between me and the OP though, is I would not blame someone else for hitting my door if I had it stuck in the road. I'd put it down to me being dozy!

ailuro2 wrote: »

Our DD is 10 now and doesn't need any child seats any more, but still scoots across the back seat to get out at the pavement side of the road, or indeed the side of the car that isn't parked next to someone else's door if we're parked in a car park and there's space.. The child lock is still on in the roadside door to avoid any lack of thought on her behalf.;)

Hindsight IS indeed a wonderful thing, and for all of those reading this suggesting those who do it the safe way are perfect, then thank you very much - I wouldn't say I was perfect, far from it, but I do try to think in advance about any accidents that might happen and try to avoid them where I can.

Yes, I agree the OP's wife wasn't all to blame because the other driver failed to see her, the reason other people on here are ranting is because the accident could have been easily avoided, and we wouldn't be going through 4 pages of other people voicing their opinions.

And you wouldn't be ringing up your insurer or having to take the car in to get fixed.

Next time it's raining and visibility is poor, load the kids from the pavement and then put the air blowers on to dry off the raindrops.:D

ps I type as someone who lives next to a school and see how many parents do exactly the same thing, knowing that other parents come haring up the hill to pick up their kids, and there have been a number of prans over the 10 years we've lived here.

Agreed!

My dd is seven and sits in the front seat mostly - she scoots across from the driver's side if I park that way, or a few times I have opened the door narrowly and she's slid in quickly while I've held the door and watched the road at the same time. She sorts the seat belt etc once she is safely inside the car and I check it. The latter is on a road where you can see anything coming from a good way off though.

I wonder how people think non-drivers manage to keep their children dry?

I'm not suggesting she is a poor parent (how would I know?) but I am suggesting she is not blameless and the other driver has every right to argue against paying for the damage caused to her car.

The fact is it would not have happended if she didn't have the door held open into the road.

ailuro2

Stolen_Soul wrote: »

Are all the perfect parents going to answer the question posed in one of my previous posts?

Had this driver hit a woman and child crossing the road, because of poor observations, would the woman be to blame for daring to cross the road with a child?

But you wouldn't stop in the middle of the road with most of your body obscured, would you?

You wouldn't be in the road with a car coming along it (unless you were really asking for trouble)

Stop Look Listen and Think before you cross the road, and only step out when you are sure it's safe - or did your MA not tell you that (or Tufty the squirrel!!)

ailuro2

Stolen_Soul wrote: »

ALL accidents are avoidable. Had this been on a busy main road, I'd understand peoples frustrations but this was a cul-de-sac - A DEAD END. Not the sorts of roads famed for high traffic volumes.

We live on a road that is a no through route. Because it has a school on it, it seems to make people think they may leave their car anywhere, or chat on their mobiles while watching out for their kids AND trying to park at the same time (normally over our drive)