CRB and a job that don`t invole driving !!

surreysaver

junkmayle wrote: »

Surreysaver - Im sure thats why Dr Shipman managed to kill over 200 people, because the police and medical authorities were wasting time hassling people with old driving bans before looking at the obvious person. People eh!

It's what the driving ban was for - not having insurance. How much grief do people with no insurance cause? And for not turning up at court! If a person has no respect for the judicial system, they are not going to have any respect for sick patients in a hospital! I would not want this person looking after me or my family.

oily_rag

Junkmayle and/or Littlecat, may I suggest you put in a Freedom of Information request to the NHS to discover the percentage of candidates declaring a conviction invited for an interview as compared to the percentage invited for interview who had nothing to declare. The NHS is publicly owned and this is your right. If as you (and I) suspect that they may be discriminating even subconsciously then the truth will out. Some of those doing the discriminating may even find themselves on the dole queue themselves very soon afterwards.

asman71

junkmayle wrote: »

Just sign on, like me, and let these people who support a system that wants to punish you forever, keep you forever from thier taxes. I cant get work cos of a caution six years ago so now these people on here fund my benefits of more than a grand a month and will probably do so for the next 25 years.

Junkmayle -

I have been following your posts for a few days, on various threads connected to CRBs, spent convictions and so on. I'm curious as to what your actual job of choice would be, if you had a squeaky clean record?

junkmayle

Oily_rag - Thats probably not a bad idea. I will do a little research to see who to send it to / how to ask etc.

Surreysaver - Please PM me your car registration. Should I ever come across a car crash involving you, I'll just step over you cos you wouldnt want the likes of me to help your family would you?

junkmayle

Asman71 - My ideal job would be train driver. Took the aptitude test at EWS test centre at Doncaster. Top of class but because my hearing is less than perfect they didnt want to know on health and safety grounds. Dont get me started on that issue please:D How quiet do you expect a train cab to be? Let me tell you, they are bloody noisy, so where is the issue. I did question the people there at the time but, surprise surprise, they couldnt give any instant where a lack of hearing could be an issue but that was the rule. My eyesight isnt 20/20 either but they said you can carry a spare pair of glasses (I have been driving since 1985 and I have never known my glasses (or anyone elses) to either shatter, nor fall off my face without warning. Fact is, if your driving your train at 60mph and a kid runs onto the tracks, with a stopping distance of a mile or more and no way to steer round, kids probably dead, whoever is driving. Did a test drive on the buses. Bloke said I handled it better than many pro drivers, BUT my unaided vision did not meet required standards. Again, Im not going to drive without am I? TBH I would be happy on the bins, I am good with DIY but most caretaker positions are out, I cant even push trolleys round the local hospital. I wouldnt mind driving those 360 degree excavators but course costs 8 grand and you have to supply a building site for some. Why cant JC get a few of us who want to do that and pay for that instead of wasting alot more money sending us on New Deal to sit in a poorly equipped office doing nothing all day achieving precisely zip?

asman71

What got my blood up not too long ago, was that after I got to the stage of applying for practically anything, I was told time and again that I was overqualified!!! Wouldn't that mean that I would actually do that job better? And to make it worse, seems like nowadays even the most basic of jobs requires an NVQ of some kind, so I found myself both overqualified AND unqualified at the same time. Ridiculous. What happened to on the job training? Anyway, I totally agree about New Deal, and Job Club and all that stuff - complete waste of time, every time. There is simply no real system to match skills with jobs. In the end, it was luck, really, that landed me a job.

junkmayle

I think the thinking with the overqualified thing is, unless you are some kind of Borg Drone, you will be bored $hitless and, when things pick up, drop the job like a hot potato for pastures new. They need to get back to proper apprenticeships rather than pay parasites like A4e et al to do sod all for anyone except themselves. When you look at it A4e and such like are the ultimate benefit cheats. If they are sucessful, they reduce their customer base and will eventually put themselves out of business. Instead, they take taxpayers money to provide pi$$ poor training (if you can call it even that), then chuck people back at JCP, ready to receive the next inmates. Before you know it, another 18 months gone by and back to A4e.

asman71

Those employment organizations have never been any use to me. They cover a very narrow section of the job market. Like I said, in the end it was luck that got me a job. Actually, I'm selling myself a little short there - luck got me an interview, and I did the rest, but still, that was just before the recession hit so I feel for anyone out there now who is looking for work. I just can't see this country heading in the right direction at all, and I honestly fear for the future of every one of us sometimes.

oily_rag

asman71 wrote: »

Those employment organizations have never been any use to me. They cover a very narrow section of the job market. Like I said, in the end it was luck that got me a job. Actually, I'm selling myself a little short there - luck got me an interview, and I did the rest, but still, that was just before the recession hit so I feel for anyone out there now who is looking for work. I just can't see this country heading in the right direction at all, and I honestly fear for the future of every one of us sometimes.

Very uncertain times ahead for sure. Add to that a government more interested in its own survival than the good of the country and its a recipe for disaster.

asman71

The problem is, it is difficult to know what to do about what is going on - there may well be good intentions behind many of our laws, but they leave many people dissatisfied and feeling like outsiders. The balance is all wrong...though I have to say that we have it far better than many places, by a long, long way.
Still, not to drift too far away from the original thread, the whole issue of criminal convictions or cautions and work is just one area where no matter what you do, someone is going to fall through the cracks. How do you overcome prejudice and convince someone you have changed, or that the original offence was minor without feeling that you have to put your life on display for the whole world, forever? Too many snap judgements are made, I think, and emotions get in the way as usual! We need our MPs to listen to us, not buy moats with our money....if enough people tell their stories, will they listen? I'm not that naive, but things cannot stay as they are for long.