Why does'nt PWC pay towards there child?

DUTR

It is all a complicated issue, which no one will have the right answer that will suit all cases

happymumto2

Bellio wrote: »

I take no money off my NRP, Why ? She is my daughter too, I wanted her to live with me, I pay. She still sees her father regularly, he buys her clothes when she wants them, she has her room at this house, he pays for the roof over her head when she is there, food etc etc. Why do some PWC turn divorce and separation into a money making scheme. These are your children too. If the NRP dont want to know why do you bother even asking for money off them. You have the best thing that can come out of a relationship, the children. And no im not loaded or anything like that, I work full time to keep my daughter. She doesnt get everything she wants or everything that I would like to give her, but that stops her being spoilt and she appreciates the value of money, she saves, she spends shes happy. Isnt that whats is all about.

Well said, I get £30 a week off my ex for our daughter although I would get way more off CSA. However he has a new wife, so another household to run. He phones our DD nearly ever night, they have a great relationship, we split big purchases between us e.g. laptop.I'm not loaded either and I appreciate what I do get as my DS gets not a penny!

bestpud

Bellio wrote: »

I take no money off my NRP, Why ? She is my daughter too, I wanted her to live with me, I pay. She still sees her father regularly, he buys her clothes when she wants them, she has her room at this house, he pays for the roof over her head when she is there, food etc etc. Why do some PWC turn divorce and separation into a money making scheme. These are your children too. If the NRP dont want to know why do you bother even asking for money off them. You have the best thing that can come out of a relationship, the children. And no im not loaded or anything like that, I work full time to keep my daughter. She doesnt get everything she wants or everything that I would like to give her, but that stops her being spoilt and she appreciates the value of money, she saves, she spends shes happy. Isnt that whats is all about.

I don't think expecting CM is money grabbing. Taking the NRP to the cleaners may be, but they are supposed to 'support' their children.

In any case, your ex does support his child - she has her own room at his house so he obviously has her over quite a lot and he buys her clothes.

That's CM by a different name in my eyes!

In fact, you possibly get more from him for your dd than many who receive a set amount per week.

bestpud

happymumto2 wrote: »

Well said, I get £30 a week off my ex for our daughter although I would get way more off CSA. However he has a new wife, so another household to run. He phones our DD nearly ever night, they have a great relationship, we split big purchases between us e.g. laptop.I'm not loaded either and I appreciate what I do get as my DS gets not a penny!

I get less than the CSA would say my ex should pay as well but that's because I recognise our eldest dd receives EMA and works, so buys her own clothes etc.

Some of us are able to reach an amicable arrangement without turning into moneygrabbers.

i_hate_the_csa

Zara33 wrote: »

TBH I think your feeling very sorry for yourself, for example if you only had to pay £5 per week for your child i bet you would be over the moon, and the flip side of this coin is what good does a fiver a week do

Maybe i am feeling a little sorry for myself at the moment due to the fact i've just been landed with a £11,000 bill for arrears.This was all due to a csa balls up.

If i was single then i'd find that easier to take.It's just a shame it has a massive effect on my wife and other son.

CMAC_2

i_hate_the_csa wrote: »

Maybe i am feeling a little sorry for myself at the moment due to the fact i've just been landed with a £11,000 bill for arrears.This was all due to a csa balls up.

If i was single then i'd find that easier to take.It's just a shame it has a massive effect on my wife and other son.

what was the csa balls up we might be able to help you.

i_hate_the_csa

Already posted a thread about this CMAC,just a few spaces down this board.Re-assessment not carried out till 3 1/2 years later.
Just got the paperwork for it yesterday.They have my wages wrong on it for a start.

PlayingHardball

Bellio wrote: »

I take no money off my NRP, Why ? She is my daughter too, I wanted her to live with me, I pay. She still sees her father regularly, he buys her clothes when she wants them, she has her room at this house, he pays for the roof over her head when she is there, food etc etc. Why do some PWC turn divorce and separation into a money making scheme. These are your children too. If the NRP dont want to know why do you bother even asking for money off them. Since when should a NRP not support a child they created? You have the best thing that can comeout of a relationship, the children. Very True! But they don't live off air alone. And no im not loaded or anything like that, I work full time to keep my daughter. She doesnt get everything she wants or everything that I would like to give her, but that stops her being spoilt and she appreciates the value of money, she saves, she spends shes happy. Isnt that whats is all about.

I too work full time, 37.5 hours a week, and on top of that am progressing my career through extensive further training - just to keep the bare minimum basics available for my child and to look to our future. I don't think you appreciate that you and I are one of the lucky ones - in that we are ABLE to work full time due to our circumstances.....

There must be loads of others on this forum with younger mouths to feed who do not have the luxury that you and I have of working full time. Who do you think pays for the children that the NRP's don't want to feed and clothe? (Hmmmm...)

Saying all that please don't think I am having a go and I respect your opinion and I do aplaud you and your situation with your ex - and it would be so nice in an ideal world, if it were that simple for the rest of us out here. Not all NRP are as agreeable as yours, or show that much care for their children.

But I really don't think supporting the children that we all create should ever be an option and I think that 15%, 20%, 25% is only a fair portion of income for a NRP to have to contribute. After all, 100% of what I earn goes to putting the roof over my daughters head, and I'm not complaining.

i_hate_the_csa

Or 30%-40% if your on csa1 PlayingHardball.

If only there was one fair system.

Blob

Hi

Yes both sides should pay for the children, but the simple fact is that the system that we have at this time is set to favour the PWC, the words of a Judge!

The Gov set the Income Support level at what they think a person needs to live on! In many cases this is not as high as the level of CM set by the CSA. This then begs the question if adults can live on this amount, then just why cant children? The simlple answer is that the CSA was never set up to help children, it was to get money back for the Gov that it was paying out in Benefit then some £6BN pa! So if you take this as your starting point it is effectivly a Tax by the back door, and yes I can already hear some people getting on thier 'Soap Boxes' please save your effort, this has been confirmed by the highest level of Govenment to me!

I too provide for my children in the form of cloths and a roof over their heads for 3 months of the year when they are with me as well as Dads taxithat their mother wont as she cant be bothered and as a result the children now dont ask. I also have saveings plans for them so that on their 18 birthday they will get some money, £****. For her part my ex has worked out the exact max that the children can be with me before it affects the amount that she will get from me. For the record she has a 3 bed house with gurden rent £380 pm, a new car and 2 holidays a year without the kids every year none with the kids, she complains that I dont pay enought through the CSA as she has had to give up her gym membership and cant go to do things that she wants to as she has to find money for the children as well! She also drips worse than a ruptured tap as she has had to go back to work!

We both wanted children and are both responsible for them, my opinion is that we BOTH should pay the same, and as I am on CSA 1 it should be household income against household income, not household agains her income only! As just why should my new partner who I did not know at the time of the divorce have to pay for my children and subsidise my ex's life style. She is further now trying to get us made homeless as she wanst the money from the house that we have got as a couple, and my partner payed the deposit for.

For one I will continue to fight for a change in the system or shoudl that be systems that we have in place at this time to gewt a better and more balanced system. To that end I have been asked if I would like a further meeting with the Shadow Cabnet Ministers, seems that my last visit to Westminister must have hit a few nerves.

For the record LG please dont bother to answer this as you dont believe what happend at teh last visit!