MSE Pregnancy Club XIII

aless02

SS - how do you get eBay vouchers! I'm so jealous...I never get any & I'm on eBay all the time. I could also never keep my DH's Xmas present secret from him for 6 months .

mollythewestie

Sarah joanne - Congratulations and welcome to the club :beer:

Claire - thats terrible :mad:, I hope they sort it for you pronto.

Nicki

My problem isn't with debate, which I agree is healthy, but with posting opinion as fact, and giving "advice" which could in fact put both mother and baby at risk. MSE is quite strict about posters not giving medical advice in any circumstances, so it seems to me to be wrong that we can't suggest that someone takes a paracetemol for a particular ailment, yet someone can post (whether accidentally or not :rolleyes:) that a woman should adopt a particular approach to childbirth, which in the circumstances of that woman may lead to a fatal outcome.

skintchick has no medical training of any kind as I understand it, and is a first time mother. She doesn't post links to any reputable sources for the medical opinions she gives, unlike Weezl or Krystal used to, yet she urges all women to at worst ignore or at best doubt the advice which they are being given by their doctors and midwives, who have that training and have read the medical evidence which supports it.

Frankly whether a baby can be born alive vaginally in certain circumstances is not the question to ask. The question is whether the baby has the best chance of being born alive and not permanently disabled if born vaginally. Or that's certainly the question that I would be asking if I found myself in that situation again.

tarajayne

Yes we do need discussions but please remember how hormonal we all are and particularily those who have just given birth will be very easily upset, and none of us on this forum would ever want to do that as we're far too nice! Please, please think carefully on whether or not your opinion will make someone feel like they did something wrong or let their baby down, which isn't the case here. And maybe these comments would have been better tomorrow not straight after someone posted their BS, thank-you very much for sharing it BTW. XXX

mollythewestie

SugarSpun wrote: »

... and a laser cosmos for the bedroom...

Is this something rude or completely innocent? :eek::rotfl:


EDIT: Forgot to say, Jvic - thank you for the birth story, x

SugarSpun

aless02 wrote: »

SS - how do you get eBay vouchers! I'm so jealous...I never get any & I'm on eBay all the time. I could also never keep my DH's Xmas present secret from him for 6 months .

I just found them in my account!

I did send them an email a while ago asking why all my friends had vouchers and I didn't... they replied and said they're completely random. They say they're not transferrable, else I'd PM you one.

My Christmas shopping is always done super early. This is early even by my normal standards because the beastie's coming, but I've managed it for about £700 less than RRP and everything together will be well under £200 including the husband's £97 toy (which is still £32 cheaper than I found it elsewhere and when you add the 10% off will be almost another tenner cheaper).

@ Molly - :rotfl: it's a light show machine thing that turns your ceiling into the night sky. He has a very great love of space, and I think it would be relaxing for him to lie under it and watch the stars.

skintchick

I am happy to post links if people want and I always say that! I just don;t want to stick loads of links up if people don;t want them.

I don;t make this stuff up! I research everything properly, including reading medical journals and reports, but if I need to annotate all my posts with a bibliography and links then I'll do that.

aless02

SugarSpun wrote: »

@ Molly - :rotfl: it's a light show machine thing that turns your ceiling into the night sky. He has a very great love of space, and I think it would be relaxing for him to lie under it and watch the stars.

That sounds so awesome!!! I wish I were into space/astronomy enough to make it worth buying for myself, but I'd just have it for the pure entertainment factor, hehe.

mollythewestie

SugarSpun wrote: »

@ Molly - :rotfl: it's a light show machine thing that turns your ceiling into the night sky. He has a very great love of space, and I think it would be relaxing for him to lie under it and watch the stars.

Phew! I have such an imagination - I think SM and MM's late night chats have corrupted me!

tarajayne

I had some ebay vouchers last week by email, 1st time ever. I have used my account a few times in the last 3 months after a while of non use.