Tesco - Parent/Child + disabled car spaces

Frugalista

kernewek wrote: »

Parent and Child spaces should be used by parents with babies or very young children who cannot get themselves in and out of a car. Not by...

-People with older children
-People without children
-As disabled
-People who have children but don't have them with them.

I read it as not to be used by disabled. If I'm wrong, then I apologise.

notafan

kernwick or whatever (you know i meant you cause you replied, it could be French i'm still not interested) like your wife's attack on the guy who used the space.

There is a need for disabled spaces, there isn't a need for parent and child.

I agree companies provide them as a marketing tool but you wont get them defending these because as mentioned they legally dont have to and for every one person who loves them, there more then likely equal or more people that don't and their money is as valuable to the store as anyone elses.

On the whole the main issue for me is when they are closer then disabled which they are at the 8 or so stores then me.

People are saying they shouldn't be abused and other people don't see why they should be provided. At the end of the day if people dont think they should be they then they should be allowed to park in them, there opinion is no less valid so you could share them with people who feel like this.

What gets me is the attitude that they should be provided and as someone already mentioned that they are a right not a privilege. I don't think it can be justified that your so put out by not having this type of space.

There are loads of stuff that's more complicated for you to do with a baby but you plan for it and get around it. If you need to arrange help you sort it, if anythings essential you manage.

'car seats are bigger etc' like someone else said put it in the trolleys provided, you see loads of various types of these too from baby to toddler.

The spaces might benefit you but its not for you or your wife to police.

It is as simple as going when its quieter if it is so much of an issue, its not a case of being shocked someone else has the oppersite opinion and going read the riot act.

You and your wife had a baby, nothing else changed, get over it.

poet123

If the space issue is really the problem, then it is easily resolved. I have yet to see a full supermarket car park,(except perhaps at Xmas) so drive on and find the furthest corner where there are not many cars and park there.

The real issue is the closenesss to the store entrance,not the width of the spaces.

notafan

FatAndy wrote: »

What a stupid comment. Years ago when our first child was a baby my wife worked in the retail industry and I worked in a Monday to Friday office job. As my wife often worked Saturdays and Sundays we only ocassionally got a day off together. This meant that which ever of us did the shopping had no choice but to take our child with them. Or perhaps notafan (should that be notabrain) would prefer we left a twelve month old baby home alone while we went to the supermarket?

I wonder if notafan drives a black Mondeo -

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2009/06/22/selfish-drivers-flouting-parking-rules-in-north-wales-55578-23939027/

My brain is obviously fine because i see life functioning just fine without P&C spaces.

And you totally had a choice, the first is deciding to have a baby, would you seriously not have had one if these spaces didn't exist? Of course its not even a factor in having a child so it should never become a big deal after, if you get one when you go - but don't moan about the guy that also got one thinking great less chance of my car getting damaged and i don't have to get wet in the rain either, that in my opinion is as reasonable as the ease of getting a car seat out the back.

You could get someone to look after it, or park in a normal space.

Jaffa.

The P&C space is the size every car park space should be

poet123 wrote: »

The real issue is the closenesss to the store entrance,not the width of the spaces.

Well I think it should be the other way round. I mean look at a shopping center, you can walk a good mile round them so what does it matter how close to the door you are. It's the space that matters.

hippychic81

i know what your saying i need a disabled spot because it is hell trying to get out of a normal spot on two sticks and sometimes in a wheelchair.
BUT i will never park in a parents space because it must be so hard to get a child in and out of a normal spot BUt i personaly wouldn't care if a parent was in a disbaled spot.
I think all parents of children under 3years should get like a pass (like a disbaled pass) when there child is born and it's valed for like three or four years and need to be shown when parking like a disbaled pass.
Not shown you either have to park in normal space or get a fine.(just my two penath)

Morglin

I've got no problems with life being made easier for parents - I can still recall the hassles of taking two toddlers shopping on a bus....:eek: with a double buggy, so good luck to them.;)

But, I do think priority should be given to protect disabled bays - you can leave the kids at home or whatever - I can't leave my disability behind!:rolleyes:

Baywatch is having an effect and both Asda and Sainsburys have started to take action against bay abusers:

http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/living/motoring-section/baywatch-is-back

Lin

redstararnie76

poet123 wrote: »

If the space issue is really the problem, then it is easily resolved. I have yet to see a full supermarket car park,(except perhaps at Xmas) so drive on and find the furthest corner where there are not many cars and park there.

The real issue is the closenesss to the store entrance,not the width of the spaces.

Thank-you for being so kind as to tell me the real issue. I shall remember your point well the next time I struggle to get my daughter secured in her car seat without bashing the car next to me that has parked right up against my door.

I actually personally believe that the best case scenario would be for most supermarkets to re-mark their car-parks so that ALL the spaces are wider. This would allow for the fact that many vehicles are bigger than they used to be. I would certainly be happy to walk - I am already, that's never been an issue for me, regardless of what other posters may believe. Unfortunately, I can't see this happening as I don't think the supermarkets would really want to lose that many spaces....


Morglin, I agree entirely with your post. P&C spaces aren't a right, and it is more important to have the disabled spaces available for disabled people. However, the extra space provided by a P&C space can be very welcome.

poet123

redstararnie76 wrote: »

Thank-you for being so kind as to tell me the real issue. I shall remember your point well the next time I struggle to get my daughter secured in her car seat without bashing the car next to me that has parked right up against my door.

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You are more than welcome:D actually, I was merely saying that as for me (having had 4 children) the space issue isn't/wasn't a problem, then it seems to me that it is really the walking issue, but that isn't as palatable, or deserving of sympathy that is why the space card is played.

redstararnie76

poet123 wrote: »

You are more than welcome:D actually, I was merely saying that as for me (having had 4 children) the space issue isn't/wasn't a problem, then it seems to me that it is really the walking issue, but that isn't as palatable, or deserving of sympathy that is why the space card is played.

Perhaps that is so for some people... I can only speak for myself.
I certainly wouldn't waste my time getting particularly upset if someone parks in the P&C space but doesn't fit the 'criteria'. As can be seen on this forum, it's obviously a contentious issue to many and why get riled up, when shopping is already stressful enough (especially with children in tow!)?
I've never found walking an issue and would be happy to park on any spot in the car-park, but I really do get fed-up with coming back to the car to find that I've been squashed in. This seems to happen on a fairly regular basis at our supermarket, no matter where I park. While I learnt to shimmy into the driver's seat a long time ago, it really is a lot harder to try and fasten a wriggly child into their seat when you can't open the door.