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DFW running club mark 3!! ALL ARE WELCOME!!

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  • bj-sailaway
    bj-sailaway Posts: 972 Forumite
    51.6 miles! Wow, and I'm pleased with 20+! And even then my shins ache, they ache so bad it's worrying me!
  • mizmir
    mizmir Posts: 3,710 Forumite
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    Ok folks - complete beginner here. In fact I ran hard for the bus this morning and was out of breath! But I have been thinking that running would be good as I need to get fitter and lose weight and I have a dog that can't go off the lead much (not good with other dogs) and running with her would exercise her more. I have two questions - I am in my mid-40s - have never done this before - and do get some lower back/knee pain - is this a very bad idea...??! And assuming not what is the best way to start? Money is tight so I want to get started as cheaply as possible but have been told good shoes as a minimum... and will need a bungee lead and waist strap for the dog... anything else?

    My goal - mmm ... at the moment to run round our local lake (flat, about a mile and a half!) - though ultimately it might be fun to try Cani-X.
  • bank_of_slate
    bank_of_slate Posts: 12,922 Forumite
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    mizmir wrote: »
    Ok folks - complete beginner here. In fact I ran hard for the bus this morning and was out of breath! But I have been thinking that running would be good as I need to get fitter and lose weight and I have a dog that can't go off the lead much (not good with other dogs) and running with her would exercise her more. I have two questions - I am in my mid-40s - have never done this before - and do get some lower back/knee pain - is this a very bad idea...??! And assuming not what is the best way to start? Money is tight so I want to get started as cheaply as possible but have been told good shoes as a minimum... and will need a bungee lead and waist strap for the dog... anything else?

    My goal - mmm ... at the moment to run round our local lake (flat, about a mile and a half!) - though ultimately it might be fun to try Cani-X.
    Hi Mizmir,
    When you start running it's not like running for a bus, full pelt.
    You start slow, a minute of jogging at a comfortable pace alternated with a minute of walking until you can build up the running and reduce the walking.
    ...Linda xx
    It's easy to give in to that negative voice that chants "cant do it" BUT we lift each other up.
    We dont count all the runners ahead of us & feel intimidated.
    Instead we look back proudly at our journey, our personal struggle & determination & remember that there are those that never even attempt to reach the starting line.
  • Alias_Omega
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    edited 31 July 2009 at 1:40AM
    mizmir wrote: »
    Ok folks - complete beginner here. In fact I ran hard for the bus this morning and was out of breath! But I have been thinking that running would be good as I need to get fitter and lose weight and I have a dog that can't go off the lead much (not good with other dogs) and running with her would exercise her more. I have two questions - I am in my mid-40s - have never done this before - and do get some lower back/knee pain - is this a very bad idea...??! And assuming not what is the best way to start? Money is tight so I want to get started as cheaply as possible but have been told good shoes as a minimum... and will need a bungee lead and waist strap for the dog... anything else?

    My goal - mmm ... at the moment to run round our local lake (flat, about a mile and a half!) - though ultimately it might be fun to try Cani-X.

    My first step would be use The Running Bug or Runners World, find yourself a 5k fun run near you and enter it. Set yourself a goal to complete this. I can knock out 5k in about 26-27mins, so less than 45mins is good for a start.

    This will give you the drive to get out and start running. I started running last october wearing tracksuit bottoms, a jumper and an iPod. As the snow fell, i put on some long-johns and a thermal top under the tracksuit & jumper & wore a hat.

    These days its shorts and t-shirts, bought some ronhill leg things from ebay for £9.99 the other day.



    A few basics things for running..
    • Running trainers (£30)
    • Comfortable Clothes (tracksuit bottoms & t-shirt)
    • Digital watch
    • Water Bottle
    • MP3 Player / iPod
    Set yourself a routine, i started going out when eastenders was on. I could get out and back (5k) in the time this drizzle was on tv. Therefore the wife was entertained. I planned a route and if i was not back in X time, she would come look for me.

    You can then use Mapmyrun to work out a route, and calculate the distance, you can enter in the time take and it will work out calories lost etc.

    Knee Pain = If its just below the knees, i get this when i push myself too far. Usually about the 11mile mark, so i ease off and put in less miles, more often.

    Back Pain - If the back pain is more on the sides, this can be caused by you twisting your torso when you run as you swing your arms. Clears up after a few weeks as you get use to it.
  • InaPickle
    InaPickle Posts: 5,968 Forumite
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    edited 31 July 2009 at 3:04AM
    Welcome to the thread InaPickle; you've come to the right place for support and advice. You'll soon find you're hooked once you get started - running is addictive :D

    That run sounded fun evab. Most of my runs take me along the sea front at some point - the sea breeze is quite challenging at times isn't it? I love that part of the run though especially early morning - it gives me that 'glad to be alive' feeling :D Oooh yes ...... is it this weekend that you are revealing your goal? ;)

    Why thank you, Simplycynical. That's very kind - particularly with someone with your login name! ;) And I've heard this thing about addictive running before - I sincerely hope it kicks in as I'm more addicted to chocolate at the minute, if I'm honest about it! :eek::o

    I look forward to picking up tips from you in the future. I'll just have to troll until I have time to focus on lacing up my running trainers. :rolleyes:

    Oh, I see that you are from the same area(ish) as me. Do you know any good 5K runs in the area, or where to find them? I hear that it's a good idea to focus on one of them when you have been doing it for a little while as a way to keep motivated.
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  • InaPickle
    InaPickle Posts: 5,968 Forumite
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    My first step would be use The Running Bug or Runners World, find yourself a 5k fun run near you and enter it. Set yourself a goal to complete this. I can knock out 5k in about 26-27mins, so less than 45mins is good for a start.

    This will give you the drive to get out and start running. I started running last october wearing tracksuit bottoms, a jumper and an iPod. As the snow fell, i put on some long-johns and a thermal top under the tracksuit & jumper & wore a hat.

    These days its shorts and t-shirts, bought some ronhill leg things from ebay for £9.99 the other day.




    A few basics things for running..
    • Running trainers (£30)
    • Comfortable Clothes (tracksuit bottoms & t-shirt)
    • Digital watch
    • Water Bottle
    • MP3 Player / iPod
    Set yourself a routine, i started going out when eastenders was on. I could get out and back (5k) in the time this drizzle was on tv. Therefore the wife was entertained. I planned a route and if i was not back in X time, she would come look for me.

    You can then use Mapmyrun to work out a route, and calculate the distance, you can enter in the time take and it will work out calories lost etc.

    Knee Pain = If its just below the knees, i get this when i push myself too far. Usually about the 11mile mark, so i ease off and put in less miles, more often.

    Back Pain - If the back pain is more on the sides, this can be caused by you twisting your torso when you run as you swing your arms. Clears up after a few weeks as you get use to it.

    Top tips for all beginners - thanks! :D
    Please call me 'Pickle'
    No More Buying Books: ???
    No More Buying DVDs: ???
    NMB Toiletries ??? and I've gone back for my Masters at the University of Use Ups!
    P
    roud to be dealing with her debts 1198~

  • becky_rtw
    becky_rtw Posts: 8,393 Forumite
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    Right my internet goes off for one night and the thread goes mad ;)

    Firstly let sort out a few things...

    TQ16 - yes find some intermediate races before your marathon to do and it'll give you an idea of the pacing you'll need :D

    For comparison for you and JJ - I trained up to 50 miles a week and ran 4:31 with 8 months training but I am female and I wasnt very well during the race but if you are desperate for 4:30 I politely suggest you may need to up your training to at least 35 miles a week

    Evab well done on a good run in some challenging conditions - I'm loking forward to Saturday :D

    Simply wow you definitely have recovered from the long runs close together - thats great - in a few weeks time that'll start showing in your adaptation :D

    Inapickle - welcome to the thread - I remember dissertation madness well :o, I'm wondering if in this month you'll get some time (say a couple of hours per week) to go out for a brisk walk - this should help you progress faster when you start running

    Uk wow what a great week - enjoy yourself at the gig :D:D

    B.J sore shins hmmm I'll see what Rich makes of that but it could just be because you are ramping up the mileage quite quickly - I remember I had them at the start but Rich will know more :D

    mizmir - Hi and welcome to you too! Dont you dare run/walk/run (Bank of slate shame on you for recommending it). Start out with a programme of 4-6 week of brisk walking - the kind that gets you out of breath. This will prepare the body for the stresses of running. Aim to get to a stage where you walk 4 miles 3 times a week and one 6 mile walk on the weekend. Then running will seem very easy, plus you dog should LOVE it :D

    Alias - nice list - although ipod isnt really necessary :p

    Am having a rest day today so I can do well in the race on Sunday - lets hope Rich doesnt lap me :o:o, he's aiming for 1:03 and I'm aiming for 1:35 so its quite possible :eek:

    Happy running all!
  • mizmir
    mizmir Posts: 3,710 Forumite
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    edited 31 July 2009 at 7:55AM
    Thanks for the excellent advice - I will start by dressing comfortably for our dog walk today and running short sections of it. And will see what 5k runs are coming up - how long do you think is realistic to build up to 5k from nothing?

    Oops - crossed over with Becky! Will build up the walking first. That should be easy if I can keep the dog from stopping and starting!
  • becky_rtw
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    Mizmir - really dont run sections - run to start and then walk the rest of the way - its much kinder on your body and prevents injuries :D

    5k is 3.2 miles - that should take you about 2 months to running it comfortably...check out if any parkruns are near you:
    https://www.parkrun.com
  • RichOneday_2
    RichOneday_2 Posts: 4,403 Forumite
    And even then my shins ache, they ache so bad it's worrying me!

    Dont worry!

    Shins ache because the muscle is growing. When you are approx 1.5-2 miles into a run it will just about have reached its maximum size as the blood pumps around the shin.

    It is fairly usual when you are building mileage quite quickly for the sheath that contains the shin not to develop its elasticity quick enough to accomodate the enlarged shin size...therefore creating a tight pressure which hurts due to the nerve endings in that area.

    It may ease off if you just slow down and get through the next mile or so ...the sheath will relax and everything will be fine. However, if the pain is excruciating, which it certainly can be, then just stop. The pain should then ease off pretty quickly.

    But its nothing to worry about, simply a sign of progress. Try starting runs a lot slower until you can get past that 2 mile mark without the problem occurring.
    Gt NW 1/2 Marathon 21/2/2010 (Target=1:22:59) (6:20/mile) 1:22:47 (6:19):j:j
    Blackpool Marathon 11/4/2010 (Target=2:59:59) (6:52/mile)
    Abingdon Marathon 17/10/2010, (Target=2:48:57) (6:27/mile)
    09/10 Race Results : http://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=103461
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