Standing children in the corner in class for minor issues?

poet123

andyrules wrote: »

Yes, I agree, but it's very hard to get a statement, poet, and as kellogs says, the burden generally falls on the class teacher. (and of course, other pupils)

I have seen cases where the child should DEFINITELY be in mainstream with adequate support (often physical disability/some ASD), but all too often a class struggles on in dire circumstances. It isn't always relevant/successful to provide one to one in mainstream either.

Kellogs - things like your photocopier incident make you just :wall:and or even :laugh: manically.

I do know how hard it is to get a statement,(and set to get harder btw) often the child is ready for moving on before the statement materialises.

I was showing the other side of the coin, to illustrate there is no continuity. The money spent on that one child could have funded additional support for so many, and the childs needs would have been met by the school in their catchment area.....a win win sitation, but seemingly too simple:rolleyes:

andyrules

poet123 wrote: »

I do know how hard it is to get a statement,(and set to get harder btw) often the child is ready for moving on before the statement materialises.

I was showing the other side of the coin, to illustrate their is no continuity. The money spent on that one child could have funded additional support for so many, and the childs needs would have been met by the school in their catchment area.....a win win sitation, but seemingly too simple:rolleyes:

yes, you have to wonder at that:rolleyes:

The case you describe is certainly not a good outcome for the school and those who may otherwise have had support.
I've seen schools fund support out of their own budget in a desperate situation. I realise SEN is funded differently now.

PolishBigSpender

poet123 wrote: »

Nor do I agree with the practice of inclusion, the theory is all well and good, but the day to day issues involved in ensuring those with very special needs are catered for in mainstream education, does detract from the educational needs of the majority.

I know I don't see eye-to-eye with you on education, but I think you're absolutely right with your posts on this thread.

There does seem to be something dreadfully unfair about resources being diverted towards the needs of the minority. I understand that these children need help - but as far as I can tell, this help can be far better provided in specialist facilities, rather than expecting individual schools to be able to provide it.

I don't think I can even begin to comprehend what a struggle it must be to try and integrate children with special needs, particularly if there are several within one class.

sarymclary

In response to the OP, I believe the punishment of standing in the corner is appropriate, for that age group. The punishment will have been known by the class already, and I'm sure not a surprise one-off. How each child is disciplined can vary, as many other posters have stated, according to the individual's needs, etc.

I really don't think this incident is worthy of creating a stink over, but that is the OP's call to make.

chumbasmum

I read through this increasing thread with great interest. I am also a teacher to secondary children and not the primary child that was described in the first thread but I think that I seem stand alone in that I don't like the punishment described. I'm not sure if I can really describe why - just a gut feeling.
I am not talking about the discrepancies in treating bad behaviour because it would have to be something that I would have to have seen etc.
Standing in the corner - you have to think 'what do you want to stop' 'what would you like to enforce?'
The element of standing out for other children to see is not how I work. I have excellent behaviour in my lessons in an OK school and I wouldn't do this. Certainly, address the behaviour, seperate the child onto a different desk/individual chair/desk but standing to face the wall... what does that teach? They are then behind and isolated from their learning - where do they go then? The really naughty child will up the anti and wonder what to do next.
My approach is to give verbal warning (explaining the issue briefly), next - move the child either away from a friend or on their own and threatened with detention or being removed if behaviour doesn't improve and if still not working they will be removed to another classroom (we have a timetable of classes they can be sent to with work).
Sent to stand facing the wall is one removed from making children sit with hands on head, wearing a dunce hat... please don't tell me that that is still going on.

i do believe that we do have to treat children a bit like we would want to be treated - humilifying in front of friends and wasting valuable time - not my cup of tea.