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mgz121

18 - B&Q - Customer Advisor 6-7 ph
21 - 22 - Software Developer - Industrial Placement - 14k
19 - 23 - Library Assistant ~ 7ph

After graduating with a first class Computer Science degree in 2012.

23 - 25k
24 - 32k

Target for 25 is 40 - 50k

dave4545454

motorguy wrote: »

Up until recently i worked for the Charity Commission so i have quite an understanding of Charities, how they work and how important volunteers are.

That's like putting Jimmy Saville on a Children's Commission. Did you get fired for accusing volunteers there of defrauding the benefit system too like you've accused me?

Suarez

Not sure why you're all still discussing Dave. He's clearly a troll. If you look at his profiles mebtions his benefits situation in every other post!

geordie_joe

Linda_D wrote: »

So are you admitting you were wrong saying that doing voluntary work is "defrauding the benefit system"?

I have read all the posts about six times and I can't find that bit, did the admin delete it?

Southend1

geordie_joe wrote: »

I have read all the posts about six times and I can't find that bit, did the admin delete it?

Post #1668

"I would rather he was looking for work rather than fleecing the benefit system personally."

Depends how you define 'fleecing' I suppose.

Here's one definition:

Fleecing:

informal
obtain a great deal of money from (someone), typically by overcharging or swindling them.

"the city's cab drivers are notorious for fixing fares and fleecing tourists"

geordie_joe

Linda_D wrote: »

The part where he says doing voluntary work is "defrauding the benefit system" is post #1668 where he says "Successful at defrauding the benefit system"

No, I meant the bit where he says "doing voluntary work is defrauding the benefit system"

geordie_joe

Southend1 wrote: »

Post #1668

"I would rather he was looking for work rather than fleecing the benefit system personally."

No, that doesn't say "doing voluntary work is defrauding the benefit system"

geordie_joe

Southend1 wrote: »

Depends how you define 'fleecing' I suppose.

Here's one definition:

Fleecing:

informal
obtain a great deal of money from (someone), typically by overcharging or swindling them.

"the city's cab drivers are notorious for fixing fares and fleecing tourists"

Here's another definition.....

Claiming benefits meant to help you get by while you look for work, and not actually looking for work.

Southend1

geordie_joe wrote: »

No, I meant the bit where he says "doing voluntary work is defrauding the benefit system"

#1658

"Dave is doing voluntary work instead of looking for a job....This is wholly wrong and a cynical exploitation of the benefits system."

#1668

Linda_D

"To be honest, your posts just come over as jealous over someone who is more successful than you"

Motorguy

"Successful at defrauding the benefit system?"

#1670

Linda_D

"How is doing voluntary work "defrauding the benefit system"?
You should read up on the rules before posting false statements."

Motorguy

"Because hes claiming benefits from a system designed to help those who are unemployed get back in to work. It is designed as a short term support system."


Motor guy was arguing that volunteering is not work and therefore Dave was defrauding the benefits system by volunteering instead of working in paid employment.

I don't think anyone said that the act of doing voluntary work in and of itself is defrauding the benefits system.

Southend1

geordie_joe wrote: »

Here's another definition.....

Claiming benefits meant to help you get by while you look for work, and not actually looking for work.

I'm not taking sides on this one because it seems like a grey area to me. If Dave is doing unpaid work that benefits society more than he could in a paid position then there is an argument that he is doing the right thing, morally. On the other hand, if it is fraud to claim benefit while not seeking paid employment, then there is also an argument that he is doing something wrong.