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MSE Parents Club Part 3

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  • cazscoob
    cazscoob Posts: 4,990 Forumite
    thanks scruffy and bailey!
    yes i do have a semichem will get a look tom while i buy picnic food for the nursery beach trip on thurs!
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  • 3onitsway
    3onitsway Posts: 4,000 Forumite
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    edited 23 June 2009 at 9:40PM
    BrunoM wrote: »
    Anyone have a good link to current "breastfeeding rights" in England? I googled a bill from 07 being considered to allow breastfeeding in all public places etc, dunno if it got through though, or if not what the law says now?

    Thanks :) not asking cuz of a problem, just because my Californian OH is being smug at me about California 'progressive position' on it :p

    You've had lots of answers already - but I think it came into English law in January of this year, it was law in Scotland first.
    If i've got it right, its now against the law to challenge anyone for breastfeeding a baby under 12 months old.

    Fritha - correct me if i'm wrong with your analness! :D

    Lu_T wrote: »
    My bump pics have arrived :T Just uploading them to FB and then I'll post some links.

    Consultant replied and said, "Yes but..." His point is that although the results of that review applied to all risk categories, it wasn't a study of VBACs and therefore it is still important that they use constant monitoring in order to pick up any potential problems with my scar. Worst case scenario for a scar rupture is both mum & baby dying, so I appreciate why they take it so seriously. I think they only have about 20 mins to get you into surgery and baby out before it becomes catastrophic, so I kind of see his point.

    He's even looked through the other stuff I sent him about waterbirths after c-section (which I expected him to disregard) but is right in saying that it is a very small sample.

    Bottom line = risk of rupture is low, consequences v serious. Therefore they like to play it safe. I guess I'm okay with that.

    My first baby was a c/section, then second was VBAC but I don't remember any conversations about my options then.

    This time, I'd wanted a water birth in the midwife led unit, but the consultant said I couldn't because of my previous section. I told my midwife (a nice one!), and she phoned the consultant to argue with him! He agreed in the end and I got MWU - WATER BIRTH written very large on the front of my notes. (Midwife said risk of rupture was less than 1/1000 - even less for me as i'd already had a VBAC).
    Turns out I didn't have time for a waterbirth in the midwife unit - but hey ho - my scar didn't rupture! :D

    Anyhows - I love the pics! I really wish i'd got something like that done with all three of mine! Now i'll never have a bump again and won't have the chance! :cry:

    CAZ - we had a grumpy girl this evening too. I think it was the heat as she was quite happy in the cool house all day - and turned grumpy when we went to do the school run.
    Enjoy your time out! - I always feel like i've forgotten something when i'm out and child free! :rotfl:
    :beer:
  • Millie's_Mum
    Millie's_Mum Posts: 1,199 Forumite
    Bailey,

    If it helps Millie wasn't out of nappies until she was well over 3! I felt the same as you cos everyone else's kid was trained and all the relatives were saying 'is she still in nappies?' but to me it sounded like 'has she got 2 heads?'

    I also thought Millie was ready but everytime I tried she wasn't interested and we both ended up stressed.

    In the end I gave up trying completely and then one day she said Can I start wearing pants? and that was it she just started using the loo, touch wood she's never had an accident and was dry overnight within a fortnight too.

    So can you maybe try and relax about it, he'll do it in his own time and half these people who say their kids are dry actually mean that they don't use nappies but do deal with 3 accidents a day!

    Chin up! Is Molly on an antihistamine for her eczema? It made a world of difference to Millie's.
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  • Fritha_2
    Fritha_2 Posts: 1,447 Forumite
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    3onitsway wrote: »
    You've had lots of answers already - but I think it came into English law in January of this year, it was law in Scotland first.
    If i've got it right, its now against the law to challenge anyone for breastfeeding a baby under 12 months old.

    Fritha - correct me if i'm wrong with your analness! :D

    *looks a bit sheepish* It's always been against the law to prevent a woman from breastfeeding. It's covered under the s*xual descrimination laws (denying access to goods and services) for a woman breastfeeding a baby of any age. But afaik it's quite difficult to precescute under this law so they extended the maternity services law to cover breastfeeding mothers. The maternity laws as a whole only cover up to six months. It was incredibly badly reported and lead people to beleive that the maternity law was the only one that covered breastfeeding mothers (my aunt actually told me at Christmas that wasn't it good that the new law was coming in as currently it was illegal for me to feed Celia!).

    But yes, Scotland brought it in first and England followed suit but it's just extra protection, rather than a new thing :o

    (I memorised it when I was pregnant, bloody no one has challenged me though I'm dying to scare them into submission with my anality! :o)
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  • Incase anyone wants it, I've found a link to the HMRC calculator where you can work out if you are betting taking childcare vouchers or the childcare element of tax credits. Turns out I'm better off for the moment taking the tax credits. I've been getting £10 a month vouchers since I went on maternity leave, so I'll have to call up the tax credit people and find out what difference that makes (and stop them!)... seeing as I've not been paying for childcare yet I'm not sure how it will work. It's only about £50 worth anyway.

    Izzy keeps crying out in her sleep. Poor baby, I think it is her teeth. :confused: I've got the teething powders ready by her cot for when/if she actually wakes up. There have been lots of tears this afternoon :(
    :heart:Isabella Molly born 14th January 2009:heart:
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  • SusanC_2
    SusanC_2 Posts: 5,344 Forumite
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    Fritha wrote: »
    But yes, Scotland brought it in first and England followed suit but it's just extra protection, rather than a new thing :o

    (I memorised it when I was pregnant, bloody no one has challenged me though I'm dying to scare them into submission with my anality! :o)
    And Scotland's protection goes up to 24 months too. (Not that that would make a difference to me any more since Alice is 26 months now.)

    I've never been challenged or had any weirdness either.
    Any question, comment or opinion is not intended to be criticism of anyone else.
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  • Right - I remembered you can only quote 3 people at a time so I am replying in batches ;)
    elle_gee wrote: »
    Oh, I haven't said.. Rhys breastfed for about 30mins of decent effort in 90mins of being held yesterday afternoon.
    Going to have another try this morning if he's awake :)

    Few days ago, he spent the whole day with his hand over his face, touching his eyes then nose then mouth.. so cute!

    :T:T:T Yay you two :T:T:T


    But will you PLEASE STOP making me cry :p
    Fritha wrote: »
    ooooh Celia did that for ages, it bloody hurt, now she just grabs my breast and rams it in her mouth which isn't brilliant fun but better than the scratching!

    :rotfl::rotfl:I love Celia - she makes me laugh!
    jenkellyxx wrote: »
    Hi everyone, i've not posted sice the pregnancy forum but here i am with a bit of a dilemma!! I have a 15 week old baby girl whom i have almost exclusively breast fed apart from the odd bottle if i took her to work (i work with lots of men who would feel very uncomfortable if i got my baps out!!) anyway at about week 10 she decided she couldn't use a bottle!

    TBH - persevere! Benjamin is about the same age but decided at about 8 weeks that he didn't like a bottle - upsetting for daddy and baby. I gave Benjamin a bottle by rocking and feeding (whilst he was crying :cry: - believe me it hurt me more than it hurt him) to show him that screaming doesn't equal boobie. We then introduced little bottles when he wasn't hungry as 'fun' with daddy time...the more hungry he was the more upset he would get and once he was screaming we had no hope. Benjamin now loves a bottle and gets excited if he sees me take one out of the fridge (makes me v jealous :o).
    r.mac wrote: »
    please listen to MFD - she is a wise woman :D
    Proud Mummy to the gorgeous Benjamin John born 14 March 2009, 8lbs 14oz
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  • Sami_Bee
    Sami_Bee Posts: 14,555 Forumite
    Just popping in and have only read this page, so sorry i'm not up to speed with the conversation.

    Just needed to have a moan. Normally i'm not one to take any notice of the my child's doing this how's yours doing? brigade, but i can't help feeling like i'm doing something wrong.

    Jack is still in nappies and whilst he's got the concept of doing a wee and poo on the potty or toilet, he rarely puts himself there, will deny if he's done a poo or wee despite it being obvious and that's with a nappy or pants on and basically I can't train him. It just seems to me that he's so ready and able but just can't be bothered.

    I'm trying not to make a big deal out of it, we've been doing a sticker chart for weeks and at the weekend we tried choc buttons for every wee, whilst resulted in 3-4 wees non stop and then the novelty wore off.

    I just can't help feeling fed up as the majority of kids his age are done now and some younger.

    He knows his theory but won't apply it. We've been stop starting it for months, waiting then trying again. What else can i do?

    Molly's ezcema is awful at the moment and i feel so sorry for her.

    DH out tonight and i'm feeling tad pants.

    Chris is only 2 months younger and no where near being potty trained. He does on average 2 wees a day on the potty but denies all knowledge of poos even though I'm sure he knows because he stops what he's doing to put the effort in IYKWIM I'm thinking of trying gina ford's PT in 1 week with my mum's help in the summer hols but at the end of the day they'll do it when they're ready - do the other mum's also have another LO to cope with?
    Its only the the single child family's that are PT in my circle of friends

    I have a grumpy sweaty baby and I'm a grumpy sweaty Mummy! :(
    My birthday has gone from mediocre to pants in the last few hours, I've still not had my mains from dinner (no thanks to OH :rolleyes:) never mind my cake!

    to lighten my grumpy mood tho, My baby brain is excelling itself - today I accidentally stole a salad from M&S :o I did spent £50 tho so I'm sure they're not too much out of pocket! :undecided
    The very best is sometimes what nature gives us for free.
    3onitsway wrote: »
    I think Sami is right, as always!
  • We had our very first vomit episode on Sunday! :eek:.

    We were on our way to the inlaws when Poppy coughed...and was then sick three times! It broke my heart as she was crying 'oh dear, Mama' over and over :cry:. Cue a quick pull over and change into her Dora PJ's on the street while DH got the job of cleaning the car seat with baby wipes ;).

    And then she was right as rain! :confused:. Just as though nothing had happened. No temperature, nothing. Does motion sickness strike randomly?

    Oh and I cleaned the carseat with a washing powder/water solution. Is there anything else I should do to make sure that horrid smell is banished for good?

    xx
  • Sami_Bee wrote: »
    Go Lu - sock it to him :p

    I have a couple of qu's for the BF-ers..
    Is it normal for your 'other' boob to hurt when you start to feed? mine does, its not really painful but sort of tingles as the let down starts and lasts for about 30 seconds...

    YUP!!

    A RAT :eek:
    3onitsway wrote: »
    Looks like we might need to take a trip to Sainsburys tomorrow - obviously for the nappies and wipes! And if any of that blossom hill happens to fall into my trolly i'll be most annoyed. :D


    You took the words right out of my mouth (it must have been while you were kissing me) I REALLY hope someone knows what I am talking about :rotfl:



    FANTASTIC bump pics - V jealous!!

    I work in oz too Susan!
    r.mac wrote: »
    please listen to MFD - she is a wise woman :D
    Proud Mummy to the gorgeous Benjamin John born 14 March 2009, 8lbs 14oz
    A new little seedling on the way, due 30 September 2012
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