Parents organising students lives

andyrules

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Do you realise what a small proportion of school leavers go straight into employment? It's fewer than 25% if you include jobs with training and just over 5% for jobs without. There just aren't the jobs there for school leavers and it's not a viable option for most people. All that happens is that people cadge off their parents and turn to crime.

£30 per week is money well spent if it keeps some of them doing something constructive with their time.

Until recently it was necessary to bring in foreign labour, such was the difficulty of filling jobs. I didn't realise 16-18 got jsa -have I mis-read that? I think at this point we are in danger of going off topic .

noelphobic

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I do agree that 16 year olds won't take that type of work but the other side of the coin is the fact that very few people would want to employ someone of this age as a cleaner. I know I wouldn't!

Of course in 6 years' time this option won't be available to anybody anyway.

what's happening in 6 years' time?

mumps

GlasweJen wrote: »

I sorted my own finances without my parents and without a computer, we couldn't afford one! The only thing my mum did was check and sign her box on the SAAS form. This year I went through UCAS again and i was astounded to find that you can actually tick a box to allow your parents to deal with your application! Nonsense I think, if you can't even deal with your own application then God help you when you go to uni.

A close friend of my daughters ticked the box for her parents to deal with her application, this was because she knew she was going to be working at an orphanage for AIDS orphans in Africa, she had no access to computer. Didn't realise that kids doing this sort of work were going to be so unable to look after themselves when they get to uni. Jumping to conclusions?

Davidboy

The fact of the matter is, each parent knows what their child can cope with when it comes to starting out in the world. Some 18 years can cope with a lot more than others, we are all individuals.

Now I help both my daughters. One has now finished uni lives with her bf works and enjoys her life and work. I still help her when she needs it. Youngest is still at uni and yes we still help her, thats what I am here for as a parent that is what I will ALWAYS do. I did not and would never pass judgement on what other people do to help their chidlren cope with everyday things for uni, it's not my place to, however those that critise me, I couldn't give a rats @rse. We had children because we wanted them and will ALWAYS be there no matter what. We all do what is necessary, if your children don't need help, good for them, but don't start having a go because some parents do, you do not know peoples personal circumstances.

The OP does need much help, good for you. Others do and their parents help so whats wrong with that? get over it. For those that ask questions you carry on guys, I am sure there will be someone who can help, if you can't...stay quiet.


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Bennifred

Davidboy wrote: »

The fact of the matter is, each parent knows what their child can cope with when it comes to starting out in the world. Some 18 years can cope with a lot more than others, we are all individuals.

Now I help both my daughters. One has now finished uni lives with her bf works and enjoys her life and work. I still help her when she needs it. Youngest is still at uni and yes we still help her, thats what I am here for as a parent that is what I will ALWAYS do. I did not and would never pass judgement on what other people do to help their chidlren cope with everyday things for uni, it's not my place to, however those that critise me, I couldn't give a rats @rse. We had children because we wanted them and will ALWAYS be there no matter what. We all do what is necessary, if your children don't need help, good for them, but don't start having a go because some parents do, you do not know peoples personal circumstances.

The OP does need much help, good for you. Others do and their parents help so whats wrong with that? get over it. For those that ask questions you carry on guys, I am sure there will be someone who can help, if you can't...stay quiet.


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Well said! :T

Lokolo

Although I slightly agree with David I don't think thats the point.

If DD/DS asks for help I would fully expect it. However we're talking about parents who do the stuff for the kids.

The parents that go and do the student finance! What the hell is the point. If the son or daughter gets stuck and asks for help then fine, but this isn't happening. In some cases its the parents who are doing everything, going down to the bank and opening student accounts, filling in all the forms. They're not the ones going to uni for jeeeez sake.

Northern_girl_2

I was a student from 2001-4 and it was a fairly mixed bag as to how much support people got from their parents. I had a few friends whose parents paid for nearly everything: fees, rent, bills, food and an allowance. There were more whose parents paid fees and rent but expected them to cover anything else.

I think most people were like me - paid for pretty much everything out of my loan and a part time job. Parents would do a food shop for me at the start of every term, would maybe buy a few other luxuries if they visited (small treats because they missed me!) and just once helped me out for a utilities bill that I had mis-budgeted for (£200 loan that they decided they didn't want back when I offered the money).

They did what they could to help out but I never would have wanted them to feel obliged.

I did everything myself: researched and chose a uni, visited it, sorted out finances, etc etc. I did have one friend whose mum opened all her mail and organised her finances into a monthly allowance. I would never have let my mum do that, not that she would have wanted too.

I have friends who lecture at unis and they reckon the situation with parents is getting a lot worse. Of course parents should show an interest and advise where they can...and if they are investing in their child's education then coming here for advice is a great idea. The problem is that parent's are now getting more actively involved in all of university lives - my friend's have stories about parent's ringing in sick for their kids, complaining about poor essay grades and there is an increasing expectation that you have paid for a degree, rather than paid for an education. Parents then threaten to sue when their 'child' fails, afterall they have 'paid' for the degree whether their child deserves it or not!

Oldernotwiser

andyrules wrote: »

Until recently it was necessary to bring in foreign labour, such was the difficulty of filling jobs. I didn't realise 16-18 got jsa -have I mis-read that? I think at this point we are in danger of going off topic .

I never mentioned JSA for this age group; there has to be severe hardship for someone to be able to claim it.

Oldernotwiser

noelphobic wrote: »

what's happening in 6 years' time?

You will have to remain in education or employment with training - some people are referring to it as raising the school leaving age.

noelphobic

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

You will have to remain in education or employment with training - some people are referring to it as raising the school leaving age.

Until what age? 18? And wouldn't a change of government, which seems likely, affect this?