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MONEY MORAL DILEMMA. Would you give up a £50 train seat for a pregnant woman?

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  • Chris_Howarth
    Chris_Howarth Posts: 7 Forumite
    edited 14 May 2009 at 7:00AM
    Of course I would give up the seat, £50 or more. It's a no-brainer.

    For all the posters saying that she should have booked earlier, well how do you know the circumstances under which she's making the journey? It might be a last-minute necessity.

    Chris
  • dahjoh
    dahjoh Posts: 47 Forumite
    I agree with ecp98rjs. I would certainly offer my seat for a while - 5 hours is a long time for anyone to stand. I cannot believe the selfish attitudes of many people above. Likewise, if I were the pregnant woman, I would accept the seat but only for a short while and then stand again. I don't use the train very often and wouldn't think to pre book a seat anyway and if I were pregnant, I would probably not choose to travel during busy times unless it was an emergency.
  • geri1965_2
    geri1965_2 Posts: 8,736 Forumite
    jenniewb wrote: »

    What would worry me, is if she were travelling then and had not even considered reserving a seat, and so prethinking something as simple as a train journey, what on Earth would she do when she had her child, would she have remembered to buy it any clothes?

    What an utterly ridiculous argument. Maybe you should report any pregnant women that you see on public transport to Social Services, just to be on the safe side.

    :rotfl:
  • Dorrie
    Dorrie Posts: 66 Forumite
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    I wouldn't give up my seat purely because I have chronic back problems and cannot stand for very long at all without being in considerable pain!
  • englishmac
    englishmac Posts: 137 Forumite
    MoneyMinz wrote: »
    If women or couples didn't "choose" to become pregnant, then the human race would come to a grinding halt surely?

    You say this like it is a bad thing. What's the point in the human race continuing anyway?? It is all self serving. Nothing righteous in that.
    Cheap and cheerful. Preferably free. :T LBM - more a gradual rude awakening.
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  • englishmac
    englishmac Posts: 137 Forumite
    shonarose wrote: »
    If you HAVE to find a self-interested reason in order to do the right thing : remember that the UK is an ageing population - and her child's taxes will one day be paying for your pension.

    No, my own taxes and pension contributions are paying for my pension. The timing is just offset.
    Cheap and cheerful. Preferably free. :T LBM - more a gradual rude awakening.
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  • dronid
    dronid Posts: 599 Forumite
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    edited 14 May 2009 at 8:49AM
    Of course I would! I am fit and healthy and there's no reason for me to be sitting other than comfort so no problem.

    If I was sick/ill/injured etc I would have prior claim on the seat but I would hope that someone else would move for her.

    I would even go so far as to say that out loud to her to see if there was any response from others.

    Fortunately there are some gentlemen left in the world.

    Though I'd probably also suggest she speak to the person checking tickets as she should be offered a seat somewhere as a matter of course.

    I could make it better myself at home. All I need is a small aubergine...

    I moved to Liverpool for a better life.
    And goodness, it's turned out to be better and busier!
  • BostonMan
    BostonMan Posts: 12 Forumite
    Of course I would. I think that men should be required by law to give up their seat to a pregnant woman. If their were no sitting men then a non-pregnant woman should get up.
  • smk77
    smk77 Posts: 3,697 Forumite
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    edited 14 May 2009 at 9:15AM
    I'd guess it's on the assumption that not all disabilities are evident by just looking at the person? A heavily pregnant bump is usually apparent to the majority of people! If your disability isn't obvious then people wouldn't know and wouldn't offer their seats. That's the way I understood it, anyway. I have a non-visible disability and often can't stand for longer than a couple of minutes at a time. Hence the reason I'd have made sure I booked a seat.

    And where exactly did I make that assumption about disabilities?? It was suggested that I was making an assumption about another posters disability when I've only spoken about pregnant women!!

    Seriously, if you are going to respond on behalf of someone then please make sure that you have read and understand the previous related comments!

    This is what I wrote!

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=21524477&postcount=263

    no mention of disability is there.



    Of course people with disabilities (visible or not!) shouldn't give up their seat. What I find incredible is the attitude of these people on hear who clearly understand what it's like to be in an uncomfortable situation having a go at the pregnant women saying she should have pre-booked etc. Have you ever thought that perhaps this women is happy to stand for 5 hours?

    What's even worse is that some people seem to think that this women should basically be punished by being forced to stand up for not pre-booking!
  • blue_monkey_2
    blue_monkey_2 Posts: 11,435 Forumite
    englishmac wrote: »
    No, my own taxes and pension contributions are paying for my pension. The timing is just offset.

    The timing might well be 'offset' but should there not being enough people in xx years time when your state pension is due and there is no money to pay it, then what happens? What about the NHS care you will be (possibly) requiring if not enough people are paying NI and they suddenly stop free health/dental care/prescriptions for the elderly and you've not pension to pay for it. The money it not set aside in a pot just for you in your later years, we are assuming/hoping that in that many years time there will be enough people paying Tax & NI to pay our pensions and NHS costs. And if there are not enough of these then we get no money or help!!

    What if you have a serious accident or become seriously ill? Their taxes will be paying your health costs and sick pay.

    These unborn babies might seem like a 'drain on society' to some but they will be the ones contributing for the countries upkeep when we are all old and inform and possibly needing help or even a seat on the train because you are no longer able to drive.

    Treat others as you expect to be treated yourself. You might not be pregnant or wanting kids but one day you'll be old and it might be you needing to sit as you cannot stand and karma will come back and bite you in the !!!!. Of course, you'll be on here or somewhere else complaining about the ignorant gits who made you stand for 5 hours. :rolleyes:
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