The giving up/cutting down alcohol support thread! Part 3

40somethingmum

jo1972 wrote: »

As of now that can read:

4 - Jo1972 Target af days for June: 30 Actual 5

Thanks 40SM xxxxxx

ETA: OH MY GOD, THAT'S 1/6 OF THE MONTH DONE :beer:

Scores now updated:T:T . Well done.

40SM

40somethingmum

nettttie wrote: »

HI 40SM - can you put me down for 5 AF days pls.

I did take my coat off and watched Have I Got News For You - and got the jokes for a change. Done chick livers for dog and off to make some fruit salad.

goodnite all x

Well done Nettttie. GIve yourself a bit on the back !:T

40SM

40somethingmum

glasgowgirl wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Nightie night, sleep tight, don't let the bugs bite.

If they bite Squeeesh them tight and they won't come back another night:eek::rotfl::rotfl:

Night Night Darling

40SM

Bismarck

RecoveringAlcoholic wrote: »

As I can't do jokes, thought that I would do a list for the thread..

This is from "The Alcoholic and the help he needs" published 1972
A tentative chart of alcohol addiction.

It reflects my experience of the downward spiral very closely.

Social drinking.
Occasional relief drinking.
Heavy habitual (or occupational) drinking.
Constant relief drinking commences.
Increase in alcohol tolerance.
Onset of memory blackouts.
Increasing dependence on alcohol.
Surreptitious drinking.
Repeated "under influence" driving.
Urgency of first drinks.
Feelings of guilt about drinking.
Unable to discuss problem.
Memory blackouts increase.
Decrease of ability to stop drinking when others do (Loss of control)
Drinking bolstered with excuses.
Grandoise and aggressive behaviour
Persistent remorse.
Efforts to control fail repeatedly.
Promises and resolutions fail.
Tries geographical escapes.
Loss of interest in others.
Family and friends avoided.
Work and money troubles.
Unreasonable resentment.
Neglect of food.
Loss of ordinary willpower.
Tremors and early morning drinks.
Decrease in alcohol tolerance.
Physical deterioration.
Onset of lengthy intoxication.
Moral deterioration.
Impaired thinking.
Indefinable fears.
Drinking with people from a lower social class.
Physical and mental damage.
Unable to initiate action.
Obsession with drinking.
Vague spiritual desires.
All alibis exhausted.
Complete defeat admitted.


Development period for addiction can be between 2 to 25 years.
Average 10 - 15 years.

wow!

Never seen that before....think the shocking thing is the slow-burn development of up to 25 years.....and yet it makes sense!

thanks for posting.

eselt

RecoveringAlcoholic wrote: »

As I can't do jokes, thought that I would do a list for the thread..

This is from "The Alcoholic and the help he needs" published 1972
A tentative chart of alcohol addiction.

It reflects my experience of the downward spiral very closely.

Social drinking.
Occasional relief drinking.
Heavy habitual (or occupational) drinking.
Constant relief drinking commences.
Increase in alcohol tolerance.
Onset of memory blackouts.
Increasing dependence on alcohol.
Surreptitious drinking.
Repeated "under influence" driving.
Urgency of first drinks.
Feelings of guilt about drinking.
Unable to discuss problem.
Memory blackouts increase.
Decrease of ability to stop drinking when others do (Loss of control)
Drinking bolstered with excuses.
Grandoise and aggressive behaviour
Persistent remorse.
Efforts to control fail repeatedly.
Promises and resolutions fail.
Tries geographical escapes.
Loss of interest in others.
Family and friends avoided.
Work and money troubles.
Unreasonable resentment.
Neglect of food.
Loss of ordinary willpower.
Tremors and early morning drinks.
Decrease in alcohol tolerance.
Physical deterioration.
Onset of lengthy intoxication.
Moral deterioration.
Impaired thinking.
Indefinable fears.
Drinking with people from a lower social class.
Physical and mental damage.
Unable to initiate action.
Obsession with drinking.
Vague spiritual desires.
All alibis exhausted.
Complete defeat admitted.


Development period for addiction can be between 2 to 25 years.
Average 10 - 15 years.

Yep, that about sums it up. Just a small quibble about 'drinking with people of a lower social class', this difficulty affects all social classes, its not a class thing, the only thing I notice is that alcoholics with lots of money drink posh expensive stuff, and some of us who reach the pits buy white cider, but its all alcohol-we're all in the same boat. Alcoholism isn't a class thing and no drinker should be regarded as inferior to another- in fact when I spent some time with other street drinkers at my worse, they were the most compassionate and supportive people I've ever met- they never judged me at a time when everyone else had left me as a lost cause. Sorry, but I feel strongly about this, whatever you drink, wherever you are from- a drunk is a drunk, material wealth has nothing to do with it- we all end up in the same place if we don't sort ourselves out.

barshamhillbilly

Blimey ....population explosion tonight .... all talking at once !

Hope every is Ok .... too late to read them all.

Another day done and dusted

Best Wishes

BHB

mollypolly

Phew...Just caught up,:rolleyes:

Well done Everyone,:j
Night night
Love Mollypollyxxxx

Sea78

Hi all

eselt - I thought the same thing when I read it - but I guess it's from 1972, when perhaps more 'classism' existed than today? Or perhaps just in a more overt form?

Well, I've been to 2 more meetings this week. Had adrink last Saturday as you know, and then had a bottle on tuesday night. Apart from that nothing. And given tonight is a Friday night and my car broke today, I feel a sense of calm about it all. Very strange. Perhaps there is something to this AA stuff after all!

I'm really hoping that day by day I can continuie this? I was given the big book by another member, which I thought was really kind of them, and have been slowly reading through it. While I am not drinking during hte day, with no job and everything gone, I do believe that that is truely a 'yet' unless I sort this out.

I do hope everyone is ok - I've got 7 pages to read (and I have settings to read the most on each page!) so think that I'm not gonna catch up

Sea xxxx

nettttie

RecoveringAlcoholic wrote: »

As I can't do jokes, thought that I would do a list for the thread..

This is from "The Alcoholic and the help he needs" published 1972
A tentative chart of alcohol addiction.



Drinking with people from a lower social class.


Development period for addiction can be between 2 to 25 years.
Average 10 - 15 years.

My interpretation of this is not a "dissing" of classes but more the fact that the alcoholic has exhausted all social communication within his own class/peers that he seeks alcoholic solace with a class he wouldn't have thought at one time he would do!! iykwim.....

we dont know where the alcoholic bum in the street has derived from we just know where he is at now - and that obviously is classless - as they are from all walks of life but together in one through alcohol and having reached rock bottom they are seen as lower than the functionng secret alcohol! (seen as lower by society).

We are all, of course, entitled to interpretate this as individuals.


clear as mud to me but my goggle glasses are off - lol

I really only came to switch the pc off; goodnite x

Wanna_Bee_Free

Thanks for all those posts and well done everyone, especially WB and Netttie and TTGU and I've probably forgotten loads of people too.

What can I say, there's been some great groan out loud jokes (don't stop now!) and some heartfelt thought provoking stuff. Jo isn't it odd how it gets in your head like that.

So this mushroom walks into a bar and sits down. The mushroom says, "Hey bartender! Can I get a drink?" The bartender says, "Sorry man, we don't serve your kind around here." The mushroom replies, "What man? Im a FUN GUY!"

I have managed a first for me. I didn't drink when hungover today, even though I spend 3 hours in the pub. Feeling really good about that. I didn't manage to stick to the diet for breakfast but did for lunch and dinner so that's good too. Off to put my halo down for the evening. Sleep well everyone.