Anyone sent their dog off to training camp??

MrsTinks

How would you start to diagnose it though? (not being argumentative btw! - genuinely wondering)

puddy

no idea, its hard enough in humans to determine if someone really has it or whether their behaviour is due to social or family issues and parenting

proper adhd is organic though and they usually prescribe medication and if it works they it confirms that the child had adhd, if it doesnt work then they confirm the child doesnt have it

marshallka

jenner wrote: »

no idea, its hard enough in humans to determine if someone really has it or whether their behaviour is due to social or family issues and parenting

proper adhd is organic though and they usually prescribe medication and if it works they it confirms that the child had adhd, if it doesnt work then they confirm the child doesnt have it

I am going to the vets this evening at 6.10 and we have to muzzle him before hand this time to save wrestling in the vets. I am dreading it but trying not to let it show. I need sedating never mind the dog. :eek:

puddy

marshallka wrote: »

jenner, I think that too. I really believe it can happen. I have googled this over the weekend but apparently lots would say ALL dogs have it.

http://gooddoggie.co.uk/adhd.htm

very interesting, although that links seems to indicate that adhd is on the autistic spectrum, which is something i have never heard before and am not sure is true.

we reckon my mum's cat has aspergers. my sister has aspergers too.

puddy

marshallka wrote: »

I am going to the vets this evening at 6.10 and we have to muzzle him before hand this time to save wrestling in the vets. I am dreading it but trying not to let it show. I need sedating never mind the dog. :eek:

camomile tea for you and a handful of the calm ums....

marshallka

jenner wrote: »

camomile tea for you and a handful of the calm ums....

I will just ring ahead and ask for the jab when I get there. (For me:eek:).

MrsTinks

marshallka - radical suggestion here... but would your vet entertain the idea of doing a house visit? Or would they charge an arm and a leg for that? I know my friend who is a vet does it for a couple of clients as their dogs tend to freak if taken near the surgery...
Ironically another friends dog who is registered with my vet friend is totally off the scale when it comes to aggression at the vets... so much so that only 2 of the vets there will deal with her and she has to be muzzled. She was a rescue and was been like that since they got her - not a dog I'd trust on a good day though, let alone in a surgery where she's more stressed so for her a home visit isn't an option anyway, but it might help for you? Just an idea...

WolfSong2000

If you want to get a handle on dog behavior and psychology there are some excellent books out there...I'm a big fan of Ian Dunbar (who lives in the USA now, I think?). He's written some fantastic books...there's also another book called "Why does my dog...?" by John Fisher may well be worth a look. It's not an instant problem solver, but may give you some insight and ideas. Also take a good look at your dogs diet...try and avoid processed food as much as possible, and maybe look into going on a raw diet? Again, not instant fix, but every little bit helps.

cheepskate_2

marshallka wrote: »

We had one ages ago and he was worse so last week we bought another one from pets at home and I tried him. He just jumped up me all the way and back doing the barking. I took it back .

I know its quite difficult to help without seeing the dog, but on this part here goes.

Mabye by picking on one particular thing and really concentrating on that you may be able to get some progress, sometimes we try and fix everything at once and it bogs us down.
From what your saying he can be well behaved at certain things, and you can get him to do certain things when you want him to do it.

To me it sounds like learned behaviour, things that he has mabye done as a tiny pup (although it may not have been a problem then as he was small ) it has not been nipped in the bud and has escalated into this terrible behaviour.

In the quote i have given , i would have suggested that this behaviour should never be allowed.

This would be something as simple as stopping and having no eye contact until his screaming subsides. I know this behaviour will not stop with one sesion, but consistancy is th key.

When he is jumping up , turn your body and leash so he gets a bit unbalanced and he has to go down, or walk backwards with him on a tighter leash.

With my old weimmy we had this jumping and terrible screaming when we arrived home. Slightly different place but the training is the same.

There seems to be a few seperate issues and i would pick one and work on that .

Hope you get it sorted as dogs can make our lives so difficult with these behaviours, if only they knew.

marshallka

Well been in tears for the last couple of hours as we visited the vets this evening and this time he was muzzled in a cage type muzzle and she did the drops and he was terrible with his teeth and growling. His eyes are healing as to yet but he has to go back again.

Anyway she got the vet in that has actually done dog psychology and she said she would get us to see a behaviour therapist but a vet trained one. I then asked the vet that treated him what she thought of his behaviour and she said it was definately aggression and that he was classed as an aggressive dog. She asked if he did this at home and he has never growled like that ever before. He has growled at home but never like that.. Anyway I then asked about what they could do and she then said that as we had a child (although our child is 13 and would never use the dog as a play toy anyway!!) it would be best to get this sorted out. SHe said what if he went for the child. He has never "gone" for anyone at all. He growls like any dog I would think when they have had their corneas hurt and then someone (a complete stranger) comes along to put stuff in their eyes and shine lights in them they would growl. I would say he was scared more than anything. She did mention putting him down too but no way would I do that. SHe said that sometimes this aggression cannot be solved. I don't see him as aggressive at all. He has never hurt any of us or anyone at all come to mention.

She told me that to have this vet therapist to have a look would be £100 to £200 as I said i wanted him/her to come to our house and see him here.

I have tried to email a long letter to the border collie rescue place and its come back as undelivered mail, I need help like yesterday. I have had a reply from Lynn Davis dog training but our vet says he needs a trained vet one.... any advice. He is NOT a bad dog at all. She does not recommend the training school thing either.