Advice on Teeth Whitening Discussion Thread

brook2jack

brook2jack wrote: »

Trading standards alone prosecute peroxide cases , it has nothing to do with the GDC.GDC just have powers to prosecute illegal practice of dentistry.

This was a whitening case and purely prosecuted as a whitening case smilestyle did nothing else (they closed in December) here is website
http://www.stylesmileteethwhitening.co.uk/qanda.html .
interestingly they advertised as bleach and peroxide free.

Alternatively read the case details. There are several more pending.

Did you not read this the case had nothing to do with peroxide it was illegal dentistry ie tooth whitening, read the details if you dont believe me.

jasperconran

brook2jack wrote: »

Did you not read this the case had nothing to do with peroxide it was illegal dentistry ie tooth whitening, read the details if you dont believe me.

Dont need too, dont care.

As I keep saying, this was passed by House of Lords and the EU as a COSMETIC procedure in 2001.

both are alot bigger than the GDC, there is nobody higher

brook2jack

jasperconran wrote: »

try this link


www.uber-beauty.co.uk/pdf/legal.pdf.pdf



I think it explains everything

I love selective quoting , lets try some of the quotes used in this to justify an illegal activity eg “There is nothing illegal or unsafe about the technique of tooth whitening”
CHIEF DENTAL OFFICER MARCH 2000

an 11 year old quote from a briefing paper talking about dentists not beauticians etc from this document which says only dentists and dental professionals should do tooth whitening
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:I8w-lk1XxkEJ:www.docstoc.com/docs/14906938/TOOTH-WHITENING+%E2%80%9CThere+is+nothing+illegal+or+unsafe+about+the+technique+of+tooth+whitening%E2%80%9D+CHIEF+DENTAL+OFFICER+MARCH+2000&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk


and “The safety profile of hydrogen peroxide in these products is well established. The incidence of
adverse effects is very low.”
UK DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

the same doh which said a few months ago whitening should only be carried out by dentists
" The GDC says it does not distinguish between treatments and only dentists and dental-care professionals should be allowed to whiten people's teeth in the UK.

The council successfully prosecuted the director of a national chain of tooth-whitening salons in March this year - and is warning it will bring similar proceedings in the future.

Its view is supported by the Department of Health, which says tooth whitening should be performed by a suitably trained and competent dentist or dental-care professional." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13288305

I could continue. Not very convincing evidence is it, especially as it is repeated word for word on multiple whitening websites.

brook2jack

Quote:
Originally Posted by brook2jack
Did you not read this the case had nothing to do with peroxide it was illegal dentistry ie tooth whitening, read the details if you dont believe me.

jasperconran wrote: »

Dont need too, dont care.

As I keep saying, this was passed by House of Lords and the EU as a COSMETIC procedure in 2001.

both are alot bigger than the GDC, there is nobody higher

Then why was the prosecution successful ?

jasperconran

you need to read my posts, I have already said what I thought.

(yawn, yawn) all you have done for the past 2 days is constantly repeat yourself time and time again.

I say again, for the last time. Teeth whitening is a cosmetic procedure whether dentists and the GDC like it or not. As I said previously, the House of Lords and the EU passed this law back in 2001.

The House of Lords and the EU are bigger and higher than the GDC. you cannot get any higher than the House of Lords.

If they deem it cosmetic, then so be it. You lot have been, as the saying goes, overruled! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:department of health is no biggie either! the prosecution could have been successful for a number of reasons, maybe (as ive already said!) the company in question perhaps used higher than the legal limit of peroxide in their gels. maybe they did and hurt somebody, who knows?


I will not be repeating myself again!

brook2jack

We know read the details of the prosecution IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEROXIDE, it was illegal practice of dentistry. Perhaps you might listen to beauticians who realise the legal situation and are sensibly not getting involved in an illegal practice http://www.salongeek.com/biz-geek/135952-average-joe-sued-doing-teeth-whitening.html

brook2jack

Trading standards also believe only registered dentists should be prescribing tooth whitening, particularly read the last paragraph


Row over teeth whitening resolved
27 June 2011
A COMPROMISE has been reached with trading standards officers on the use of teeth whitening products.
Trading standards have agreed to ease restrictions on the use of whitening products following a recent crackdown by officials in Essex County Council. They have now given the green light for the products to be used by GDC registrants in the surgery in the course of “a professional whitening service”.
edit...............
“It is the view of this Service that such treatments would be regulated by the GDC. Provided your business takes reasonable steps to restrict supplies of such whiteners to registrants, making it clear that the product is only for use in surgery (i.e. not for supply as an over-the-counter take-home cosmetic product for consumers), then the view of this Service is that there is no need for any trading standards action.”
Officials confirmed they shared the view of organisations such as the BDA who believe the safest place for cosmetic teeth whitening is “in the care of registered dental professionals, and it is not in the public interest for action to be taken to restrict the supply to dentists of the necessary raw materials and whitening kits

jasperconran

bored.........:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

you can keep quoting all ya like...its make no difference to anyone.

not salons, not beauticians, end off.:p:p:p:p

doesnt matter what trading standards thinks, told you that already

brook2jack

Well I'm sure the company secretary of a company that supplies whitening supplies who was interviewed under caution by trading standards in the last couple of weeks will be very happy that they don't matter and that the changes he made to his business under threat of legal action from trading standards was unecessary.

Perhaps you might like to read about the extensive powers trading standards do have http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/

jasperconran

there are many many companies who supply teeth whitening supplies etc. all over this country.

and they are going great guns! and making a good living. many social sites also advertise these services.

If it was supposedly soooooo illegal, how comes all these people are going great guns???????

I think you need to give up mate, cos no one else thinks its illegal except the GDC and their lapdogs.

Salons are loving it, cos they make a good commission and mobile technicians love it cos they are making a good living.:p:p:p

I have made a report and a list of your theories and complaints. I will get my husbands company solicitors to look into it further and also my brother who is a barrister.

I will let you know what I find out.