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di3004

marshallka wrote: »

Just like my sons friend. He has no qualifications and he is teaching special needs for the place where my son is going to work. He calls himself a mentor but has no qualifications to be a mentor. Very confusing.

Its good they give them the opportunity isn't it?
Quals or not.

Jamie has a good wad of quals, A levels as well, when they recieved his CV the guy another Mentor called Gareth rang him and said "look there is a vacancy like what I am doing within the council taking care of the clients for future jobs fund coming up are you interested"? So he was interviewed the following day and was told there and then he had the job, although it does help as he worked within DWP before as well.:)

di3004

marshallka wrote: »

Its beyond me how they can hand teaching jobs out with two weeks training. My future daughter in law (I call her that now cause she will be I hope;)) has been to college for years and has lots of A levels and is now doing a degree in teaching. She did not do two weeks training. In fact it makes a mockery of people like her to give titles of mentors to people who do not have qualifications in teaching. Its not your sons fault Di and not knocking him but having a title like that suggests years and years of slog as a teacher to me.

Not sure within Unemployed Mentor or Teaching Mentor to be honest.

His ex, well they are more or less back now, she is in her 3rd year at uni for teaching and has worked her socks off as well, a long old slog.

That is the title on his pay slip as well "Adviser-Mentor" or the other way round.

di3004

Oh he is doing his NVQ with them as well the same time, forgot all about that lol.:D

di3004

We are waiting for another meeting in regards of Dad.

A few homes have been viewed now but not all up to scratch, there is one lovely one not that far away but a waiting list.

However, there may be some changes again now, because now they are saying he may even get the chance to come home, it would be nice to know what is happening once and for all though, the poor guy thinks he's been a bad boy......:o

He is looking good though.;)

marshallka

di3004 wrote: »

Its good they give them the opportunity isn't it?
Quals or not.

Jamie has a good wad of quals, A levels as well, when they recieved his CV the guy another Mentor called Gareth rang him and said "look there is a vacancy like what I am doing within the council taking care of the clients for future jobs fund coming up are you interested"? So he was interviewed the following day and was told there and then he had the job, although it does help as he worked within DWP before as well.:)

I think to be a teacher you have to have teaching qualifications. We all look up to teachers (my son also has good qualifications BUT none in teaching!!) and to be able to advise on things to me takes lots of years of slog and also qualifications stating "teacher" or "councellor" etc. What if the advice is wrong, who takes the blame!!

My son has been with his girlfriend for 4 years in March. She has worked her socks off and I would hate even for my son to be called a teacher of anything when she has done all this and still is not classed as a teacher. She could be a teaching assistant at the moment until she finishes this degree but still not an actual teacher and her speciality is special needs but a properly trained special needs teacher. She works in a nursery at the moment and is the most qualified there.

Mentor means teacher really so I cannot really understand. Its so strange cause me and my son had this conversation yesterday about his mate. He has only been there for two months and is classed as a mentor for special needs and yesterday he actually said he had a class to teach:eek:. I suppose it sounds good though to anyone he meets:cool:. Its the same everywhere now. To be an electrician you had to do years and years of training and now you can do things overnight virtually.:rotfl:My hubby says you can always tell the ones that do the fast track training. Its all forgotton after a week or two. :eek:

di3004

marshallka wrote: »

I think to be a teacher you have to have teaching qualifications. We all look up to teachers (my son also has good qualifications BUT none in teaching!!) and to be able to advise on things to me takes lots of years of slog and also qualifications stating "teacher" or "councellor" etc. What if the advice is wrong, who takes the blame!!

My son has been with his girlfriend for 4 years in March. She has worked her socks off and I would hate even for my son to be called a teacher of anything when she has done all this and still is not classed as a teacher. She could be a teaching assistant at the moment until she finishes this degree but still not an actual teacher and her speciality is special needs but a properly trained special needs teacher. She works in a nursery at the moment and is the most qualified there.

Mentor means teacher really so I cannot really understand. Its so strange cause me and my son had this conversation yesterday about his mate. He has only been there for two months and is classed as a mentor for special needs and yesterday he actually said he had a class to teach:eek:. I suppose it sounds good though to anyone he meets:cool:. Its the same everywhere now. To be an electrician you had to do years and years of training and now you can do things overnight virtually.:rotfl:My hubby says you can always tell the ones that do the fast track training. Its all forgotton after a week or two. :eek:

I know Daniel has a mentor as well but not for education (yet he did have one at school), this though now within the social services, so not sure Marshallka. Also my dad has one too, so goodness knows.

I thought Mentors could come under any category? confusing.

Hubby had to sit a test yesterday as well, he passed it, and has another today, then should get his certificate, fingers crossed.

My sister does teaching as well, I would not have the patience to be honest.......:eek:, so good on your future daughter in law....:T;)

Just taken a look at Jamie's contract and payslip:

On his contract (Support worker Mentor - Adviser)
Payslip: Mentor support worker.

Goodness knows lol

marshallka

di3004 wrote: »

I know Daniel has a mentor as well but not for education (yet he did have one at school), this though now within the social services, so not sure Marshallka. Also my dad has one too, so goodness knows.

I thought Mentors could come under any category? confusing.

Hubby had to sit a test yesterday as well, he passed it, and has another today, then should get his certificate, fingers crossed.

My sister does teaching as well, I would not have the patience to be honest.......:eek:, so good on your future daughter in law....:T;)

Just taken a look at Jamie's contract and payslip:

On his contract (Support worker Mentor - Adviser)
Payslip: Mentor support worker.

Goodness knows lol

Yeah, just googled the jobs and they are for training for 3 to 6 months so not a guaranteed job just like my son.

TBH these schemes although they get young ones off the dole and working, are really scams to make the unemployment figures look better and also a way of business's gaining employees that they pay minimum wage and can get rid of at the end and also they get paid for employing them too. Not enough regulation on the employers I think.

When my son was taken on on his 3 year young persons apprenticeship they knew his age at the time and they finished him when he reached 21. I knew their game so gathered all the "proof" from college documents and reports put in to college from the employers and there was NOTHING to say that he was not doing well. They changed their attitudes to him when they stated they did not know he was actually 21 that year (meaning they had to pay more money and not the £80 for a 40 hour week they were!!). We took this to a tribunal and won but still i posted this in my email to our local MP. Its really a way of cheap labour but they do not understand what they do to these kids who actually want to work and get paid for it. I have asked that there is some sort of regulations that employers have to follow and that they are "serious" about taking someone on after the initial training periods. Doubt it will do anything but had to voice my opinions.

di3004

marshallka wrote: »

Yeah, just googled the jobs and they are for training for 3 to 6 months so not a guaranteed job just like my son.

TBH these schemes although they get young ones off the dole and working, are really scams to make the unemployment figures look better and also a way of business's gaining employees that they pay minimum wage and can get rid of at the end and also they get paid for employing them too. Not enough regulation on the employers I think.

When my son was taken on on his 3 year young persons apprenticeship they knew his age at the time and they finished him when he reached 21. I knew their game so gathered all the "proof" from college documents and reports put in to college from the employers and there was NOTHING to say that he was not doing well. They changed their attitudes to him when they stated they did not know he was actually 21 that year (meaning they had to pay more money and not the £80 for a 40 hour week they were!!). We took this to a tribunal and won but still i posted this in my email to our local MP. Its really a way of cheap labour but they do not understand what they do to these kids who actually want to work and get paid for it. I have asked that there is some sort of regulations that employers have to follow and that they are "serious" about taking someone on after the initial training periods. Doubt it will do anything but had to voice my opinions.

He just came home for his lunch now and to collect his SAT NAV, as he has a a few appointments to deal with this afternoon.

I asked him if he was actually under the scheme for future funds, he said no he is not a client, but adviser like them and he helps others and advises about jobs to help them back to work within the fund.

When he had the interview he asked them because he was confused on this himself but they said they needed someone as they have a vacancy where they think he fits the criteria, about 12 were interviewed on the same day for this actual job, they done this in alphabetical order his surname begins with "W" he was the last one to be interviewed and at the end of it they said he was more suitable and if he would like the opportunity to have that role with training also NVQ something like that.

He helped 3 this morning to start in a nursing home for next week.
Yesterday he was reviewing 23 year olds, and enjoyed it, got on well with them all, he has to sort out the finance side of it as well, like if anyone required boots, uniforms and things like that.
He has to take all the paperwork back to his office and send anything in regards of finance to the finance dept within the council.

Blimey your son been through it haven't he?:eek:
Glad you taken them to a tribunal, good for you.

Your right though, these funding schemes that have come in is probably to make it look good in employment figures etc.
Hope something good comes out of this now, fingers crossed.;)

di3004

Marshallka, do you know anything about this back to work bonus scheme?

Just wondered if your son would be eligible in his own rights to have this.

Jamie not had one up to now but not sure if there is a certain time they would have to be with JSA, this it was April going into May when Jamie came out last year, will check on it again on the JCP site, cheers.;)

marshallka

di3004 wrote: »

Marshallka, do you know anything about this back to work bonus scheme?

Just wondered if your son would be eligible in his rights to have this.

Jamie not had one up to now but not sure if there is a certain time they would have to be with JSA, this it was April going into May when Jamie came out last year, will check on it again on the JCP site, cheers.;)

Yes, he had a form about it. £100 isn't it. He will have to fill it in cause his MOT is up soon.:)