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UK Stockmarket 2009 and beyond

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  • duck_3
    duck_3 Posts: 48 Forumite
    tradetime wrote: »
    To do what?
    Watch the markets on the 29th and you will see

    that's all i can say
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,036 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
    For picking out stocks, I know you can list them by various ratios just wondering how he comes up with all these different stocks and the confidence to buy them.
    I generally just watch stocks long term and build up knowledge of them in order to have confidence to hold them over night


    :laugh: duck
    I tihnk you should at least give us a dramatic picture as a hint
  • tradetime
    tradetime Posts: 3,200 Forumite
    For picking out stocks, I know you can list them by various ratios just wondering how he comes up with all these different stocks and the confidence to buy them.
    I generally just watch stocks long term and build up knowledge of them in order to have confidence to hold them over night
    If you are just looking for stocks that have taken a beating, fallen hard, any screener should identify them.
    Hope for the best.....Plan for the worst!

    "Never in the history of the world has there been a situation so bad that the government can't make it worse." Unknown
  • uk_steve
    uk_steve Posts: 375 Forumite
    edited 27 May 2009 at 12:46PM
    tonygee wrote: »
    My gut feeling is we will see falls soon(possibly new lows)thats why Im holding plenty of cash(banked profits)


    actually i have done something simular to you i also have banked a few stocks with nice profit in the last mth, so i have a nice cash flow for the next mth or two

    mind you i have some stocks what are deep in the red in the last few weeks as well
    Oh well we only live once ;-)
  • tonygee_3
    tonygee_3 Posts: 432 Forumite
    mind you i have some stocks what are deep in the red in the last few weeks as well[/QUOTE]

    Thats always the risk when buying unloved stocks,however as I stated earlier markets have short memories and fingers crossed theyll do best in the future
    Markets still going sideways US Housing data at 3pm might have effect
    I sold AVIVA up 10%(great trading share)
    Looks like holders of JESSOPS have lost all,this share though has struggled for years,pre credit crunch, so not suprising
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,036 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
    edited 27 May 2009 at 1:55PM

    [SIZE=-2]Wednesday May 27, 12:00 AM
    [/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+1]25 Years Of The FTSE 100[/SIZE]By Neil Faulkner

    The FTSE 100 index was first published 25 years ago. Its base level of 1,000 was set at 3 January 1984 and it reached a high of 6,951 in 1999. At the close last Friday, 22 May 2009, it stood at 4,365.
    It took over from the long running FT30,



    which was the index used previously as the main indicator for the stock market's performance, and of businesses in general.

    The FTSE 100 vastly improved on its predecessor. It represents about 80% of the total stock-market capitalisation (the total value of outstanding shares). It gives bigger companies more weight in the index, so a change in the price of a larger firm will affect the movement of the index more than a smaller one. It also promotes and relegates firms each quarter as they grow and shrink. It's a good benchmark to measure the performance of many share portfolios and investment funds.

    A considerable transformation
    After this quarter century, the FTSE 100 has radically altered, which shows that blue-chip companies aren't immune to change. Just 34 of the original constituents are still in it, with others being acquired, relegated, broken up or bankrupted.

    StatusNumber of original constituentsSurvived34Acquired50Relegated7Broken up6Bankrupt3A lot more have been relegated than shown above, but not all of them could be kept down. Balfour Beatty (LSE: BBY.L - news) , for example, which was previously BICC, and Invensys (LSE: ISYS.L - news) , previously BTR, had stints in the FTSE 250 (news) .

    A number of businesses I've listed as 'acquired' had sunk from the FTSE 100 beforehand, typically being recycled by private equity. General Electric (NYSE: GE - news) became Marconi and then got overambitious.

    It slipped into the FTSE 250 and then became Telent (LSE: TLNT.L - news) before being acquired by the Pension Corporation. Peninsular & Oriental Steam, Pilkington Brothers, RMC, and Rank Organisation are other examples of original constituents that were bought out after sinking to the next index. House of Fraser even sunk to the Small Cap, thanks largely to a removal of Harrods from the group, before it was bought.Three companies failed to survive.

    These were British & Commonwealth Shipping, Ferranti and MFI Furniture. Some banks may recently have been saved, but some companies haven't always been too big to fall, and won't be again.The fact that so few companies of blue-chip standing have remained demonstrates that even long term buy-and-hold strategies require periodic maintenance.

    Shares must be sold and new ones bought, preferably long before the falling star drops out of the top 100, and certainly way before it's bought out at a much lower valuation or made bankrupt.More from Neil Faulkner:
    • Is That Cash In Your Index Fund?
    • How Much To Save For Retirement
    • Here's The Foolish Bottom Line
    Here's a complete list of what's happened to the original constiutents. Those marked in bold in the left hand column remain in the FTSE 100:

    Original member
    What happened to it

    Allied-LyonsAcquired
    Associated British Foods (LSE: ABF.L - news)
    (LSE: ABF)
    Associated DairiesAcquired
    British American Tobacco (LSE: BATS.L - news)
    (LSE: BATS)
    BICCBalfour BeattyBOCAcquired
    BPB IndustriesAcquired
    BTRNow called Invensys (LSE: ISYS)
    Barclays (LSE: BARC.L - news) (LSE: BARC)
    Barratt Developments (LSE: BDEV.L - news)Now in the FTSE 250
    BassBroken upBeechamAcquiredBerisford (S&W)Acquired
    Blue Circle IndustriesAcquired
    Boots (LSE: AB.L - news)Acquired
    British Aerospace
    Now called BAE Systems (LSE: BA.L - news) (LSE: BA)
    British & Commonwealth ShippingBankrupt
    British Electric TractionAcquired
    British Home StoresAcquired
    BP
    (LSE: BP)
    BritoilAcquired
    Bowater (NYSE: BOW - news)
    Now called Rexam (LSE: REX.L - news) (LSE: REX)
    BurtonAcquired
    Cable & Wireless (LSE: CW.L - news)
    (LSE: CW)
    Cadbury Schweppes (LSE: CBRF.L - news)Now just Cadbury (Munich: A0NJP5 - news) (LSE: CBRY)
    Charterhouse J. RothschildBroken up
    Commercial Union Assurance
    Now called Aviva (LSE: AV.L - news) (LSE: AV)
    Consolidated Gold FieldAcquired
    CourtauldsAcquired
    DalgetyBroken up
    DistillersAcquired
    Edinburgh Investment TrustNow in the FTSE 250
    English China ClaysAcquired
    Exco InternationalAcquired
    FerrantiBankrupt
    FisonsAcquired
    General Accident Fire & LifeAcquiredGeneral ElectricAcquired
    Glaxo
    Now called GlaxoSmithKline (LSE: GSK.L - news) (LSE: GSK)
    Globe Investment TrustAcquired
    Grand Metropolitan
    Merged with Guinness, now called Diageo (LSE: DGE.L - news) (LSE: DGE)
    GUSBroken up
    Guardian Royal ExchangeAcquired
    Guest, Keen & NettlefoldsNow just GKN (LSE: GKN.L - news) (LSE: GKN) and in the FTSE 250
    Hambro Life AssuranceAcquired
    Hammerson (LSE: HMSO.L - news)
    (LSE: HMSO)
    Hanson TrustAcquired
    Harrisons & CrosfieldElementis (LSE: ELM.L - news) /FTSE Small Cap
    Hawker SiddeleyAcquired
    House of FraserAcquired
    ICI (LSE: ICI.L - news)Acquired, but demerged AstraZeneca (LSE: AZN.L - news) (LSE: AZN) in 1993.
    Imperial Continental GasBroken up
    Imperial
    Now Imperial Tobacco (LSE: IMT.L - news) (LSE: IMT)
    Johnson Matthey (LSE: JMAT.L - news)
    (LSE: JMAT)
    Ladbrokes (LSE: LAD.L - news)Now in the FTSE 250
    Land Securities (LSE: LAND.L - news) (LSE: LAND)
    Legal & General (LSE: LGEN.L - news) (LSE: LGEN)
    Lloyds BankNow Lloyds Banking Group (LSE: LLOY.L - news) (LSE: LLOY)
    MEPCAcquired
    MFI FurnitureBankrupt
    Magnet & SouthernsAcquired
    Marks & Spencer (LSE: MKS.L - news)
    (LSE: MKS (MKX.TO - news) )
    Midland BankAcquired
    National Westminster BankAcquired
    Northern Foods (LSE: NFDS.L - news)Now in the FTSE 250
    Pearson (LSE: PSON.L - news) (S) & Son
    Now called Pearson (LSE: PSON)
    Peninsular & Oriental SteamAcquired
    Pilkington BrothersAcquired
    PlesseyAcquired
    Prudential AssuranceNow just Prudential (LSE: PRU)
    RMCAcquiredRacal ElectronicsAcquired, although demerged Vodafone (LSE: VOD.L - news) (LSE: VOD) in 1988.
    Rank OrganisationAcquired
    Reckitt & Colman
    Now called Reckitt Benckiser (LSE: RB.L - news) (LSE: RB)
    RedlandAcquired
    Reed InternationalNow called Reed Elsevier (Amsterdam: 273044.AS - news) (LSE: REL)
    Rio Tinto (LSE: RIO.L - news) -Zinc
    Now called Rio Tinto Group (LSE: RIO)
    Rowntree-MackintoshAcquired
    Royal Bank of Scotland (LSE: RBS.L - news)
    (LSE: RBS)
    Royal Insurance
    Now called RSA (LSE: RSA)
    J Sainsbury
    (LSE: SBRY) Scottish & Newcastle BreweriesAcquired
    SearsBroken upSedgwickAcquired
    Shell Transport & Trading
    Now called Royal Dutch Shell (Amsterdam: RDSA.AS - news) (LSE: RSDB)
    Smith & Nephew (LSE: SN.L - news)
    (LSE: SN)
    Standard Chartered (LSE: STAN.L - news) (LSE: STAN)
    Standard Telephone & CableAcquired
    Sun Alliance & London InsuranceAcquired
    Sun Life Assurance SocietyAcquiredTarmacAcquired
    Tesco (LSE: TSCO.L - news)
    (LSE: TSCO)
    Thorn EMIAcquired
    Trafalgar HouseAcquired
    Trusthouse ForteAcquired
    UltramarAcquired
    Unilever (LSE: ULVR.L - news)
    (LSE: ULVR)
    United BiscuitsAcquired
    Whitbread (LSE: WTB.L - news)
    (LSE: WTB)
    George WimpeyNow called Taylor Wimpey (LSE: TW.L - news) (LSE: TW) and in the FTSE 250
    http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/26052009/404/25-years-ftse-100.html
  • Stavros_3
    Stavros_3 Posts: 1,288 Forumite
    duck wrote: »
    Watch the markets on the 29th and you will see

    that's all i can say

    Get ready to bump this on the 29th, I'm so excited :confused:
    Liquidity is when you look at your investment portfolio and **** your pants
  • tonygee_3
    tonygee_3 Posts: 432 Forumite
    QUACKERS:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • duck_3
    duck_3 Posts: 48 Forumite
    edited 27 May 2009 at 8:58PM
  • tradetime
    tradetime Posts: 3,200 Forumite
    duck wrote: »
    Anyone checked the shares today ???
    There are UP and will keep rising


    http://uk.reuters.com/business/markets

    Yes thanx, 5 days a week 06:00 - 21:00, now let's see

    Dow
    > -2%
    S&P
    > -1.8%
    Nasdaq
    > -0.7%
    Transports
    > -2.8%
    Russell
    > -2%
    Hope for the best.....Plan for the worst!

    "Never in the history of the world has there been a situation so bad that the government can't make it worse." Unknown
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