a tale of my neighbour who tried but failed

ess0two

Wookster wrote: »

Another addition to my ignore list.

Goodbye.

Another c ock who fails to reply when questioned,your welcome.

ad9898_3

A couple of trolls about today, critisising others, whilst having zero input into a debate, I don't put people on ignore, but there are one or two, whose musings I scroll past pretty quickly, as I know they will have little worth, this thread proves my point.

stephen163

geoffky wrote: »

In your world maybe everyone has choices but in my real world some people dont have much choice.....ps i had been in two wars at the age of 21 i would like to think that maybe you did not have much sense at 21...and i bought my first house at 18...god big decisions for one such age......bollox

Out of my friends from high school, about 75% of the couples who decided to buy houses straight away are now separated. Marriage, houses, kids, responsibilites - might be ok for a veteran of 2 wars, but to most young people, the cracks will form at the foundations.

I'll stick with my opinion, you stick with yours. No real need to be rude about it

geoffky

stephen163 wrote: »

Out of my friends from high school, about 75% of the couples who decided to buy houses straight away are now separated. Marriage, houses, kids, responsibilites - might be ok for a veteran of 2 wars, but to most young people, the cracks will form at the foundations.

I'll stick with my opinion, you stick with yours. No real need to be rude about it

Fair point.. i never got married until i was 30:cool: life was too much fun..

SingleSue

lostinrates wrote: »

presumably because they wanted to be there for the children. I know a few women who opt to leave children with their partners in the evening rather than use other childcare through the day. When I used to work evenings myslef it was mainly students or mothers making up substantial parts of the workforce

Houses are huge decisions. Children are the biggest though.

Me and my husband did exactly the same, he worked full time during the day, I worked the evening shift with extra day shifts as and when the care needs of the children allowed it.

Initially we did it to top up our income to make things easier, later on it was to develop my career again.

It meant I could be there for the children and do the school runs but also have some personal pride from working and keep me sane!

Mind you, our case was different, I didn't actually need to go to work to keep a roof over our heads, back in the last recession it was a different matter entirely where I was working early morning shifts, night shifts and evening shifts when hubby was at home and could look after our baby...that was in an attempt to keep a roof over our heads -
it failed miserably.

davilown

stephen163 wrote: »

I don't understand why she would choose to work nights at ASDA. Surely there are better day jobs out there.

19 and 21 is way too young to make such monumental life decisions.

Are you a complete idiot? How much do you think childcare is for two kids - assuming they are under 5 of course. They worked hard to get a decent house and unfortunately got caught up in this mess. Maybe she didn't want to stay at home with the kids - not everyone likes to be cooped up with two screaming kids 24/7 when they have a partner that can do half.

Or were you suggesting that Asda was not a good job? Perhaps all she wanted was to be with other people and earn some money as well? Funny really, they seem to offer a reasonable wage with a good discount scheme.

Get your head out of the sand and realise that people work in many different types of jobs and enjoy regardless of the pay and 'status'.

JonnyBravo

ad9898 wrote: »

A couple of trolls about today, critisising others, whilst having zero input into a debate, I don't put people on ignore, but there are one or two, whose musings I scroll past pretty quickly, as I know they will have little worth, this thread proves my point.

I agree but surely you can see people are harder on the trolls from one side of the debate.... ie "the other side" of the debate to themselves. (Yes I'm not deluded - I include myself in this.)
Hence I view geoffky as one such troll

Yakubu22

Yeh thats a little harsh. Lets not forget that the couple were trying to do things the 'proper' way. The way society 'expects' people to conform. Get jobs, work, buy house, look after kids etc...Sure if they knew what was coming then they obviously would've done things differently...but remember when you were 19 how you thought you knew it all?

They weren't helped by the real villians...the "professionals" with vested interests i.e. EAs, Mortgage Lenders, TV Presenters on relocation/property DIY/make loadsa cash programmes. Who promised that the party would never stop.
Only the boom turned into a giant pyramid scheme and innocent people were sucked into believing if they didnt buy NOW they would be renting forever.

I nearly bought in sumer 2007, but for some reason (probably laziness) I never did. Inadvertantly the best financial decision I made -but it could have been different

stephen163

davilown wrote: »

Are you a complete idiot? How much do you think childcare is for two kids - assuming they are under 5 of course. They worked hard to get a decent house and unfortunately got caught up in this mess. Maybe she didn't want to stay at home with the kids - not everyone likes to be cooped up with two screaming kids 24/7 when they have a partner that can do half.

Or were you suggesting that Asda was not a good job? Perhaps all she wanted was to be with other people and earn some money as well? Funny really, they seem to offer a reasonable wage with a good discount scheme.

Get your head out of the sand and realise that people work in many different types of jobs and enjoy regardless of the pay and 'status'.

Sorry if i've offended you. Maybe you work at ASDA? I had the dubious honour of working at ASDA a good few years ago. The point I was trying to make was, and their story is testament to this, is that huge life decisions, e.g. children, mortgage, house, cats, are probably better postponed until you are slightly older, or alternatively, financially stable enough not to have to work day/night shifts. What an enormous strain on a young relationship that must be - to barely see your partner. Only the naive would underestimate the burden of doing this.

I don't think your criticism of my post is warranted, in fairness.

mardatha

God you lot are like taking a nursery outing on a too-small bus !