The depressively optimistic moneysaving thread

absolutebounder

beachbeth wrote: »

This is one reason why Hitler was so successful at getting the mass of people behind him - he evoked the same sort of mass hysteria that the Beatles did when they were in concert (obviously with different intentions!).

Very true. hitlers speeches I am told were very stage managed to be hypnotic but I dont know enough german to know what he was saying. Most religious leaders were too. beware the media as well im sure rupert murdoch knows a thing or two:D
Hitler was also a very good economist but unfortunately he went bonkers

beachbeth

absolutebounder wrote: »

Hitler was also a very good economist but unfortunately he went bonkers

Perhaps he came down with depression.:rotfl:

tattycath

I have suffered from depression and I can relate to feeling overwhelmed butthings that some people find relaively easy (and in some cases really easy). Depression is an illness but it can be a kind of self fulfilling prophecy. You can't do it because you're depressed, and because you're depressed you can't do it and so it continues. Only you can break the cycle and others can give support. But with the best will in the world only you can do it-easier said than done I know-I have been there. So I got round it by altering my mindset. You have to want to get out of the situation and depression. It's easy to wallow in depression and be negative and let depression rule you. You have to decide how you want your life to be. and as you said in a previous post before depression you broke things down into mangeable sized chunks...you can do this again. you have to gain strength from somewhere to be able to achieve this. I drew on the strength of others (their support and positivity) and I still do at times. If you need to draw strength from other posters (us etc) then I hope you can and will.
I hope this post makes sense to you and I hope it helps.

beachbeth

tattycath wrote: »

It's easy to wallow in depression and be negative and let depression rule you. You have to decide how you want your life to be.

Thanks for your input. I agree with you and yet I don't find it is exactly as you say.

I can remember sitting at work with no particular stress or anything to worry about. The sun was shining and I didn't have a lot on my mind and yet I started to feel panicky about going home and getting the dinner etc. I knew as I felt these overwhelming feelings that depression was coming over me yet again. I tried to concentrate on all the good things - my OH, my nice house, my lovely daughters etc but the black cloud was coming over and there was nothing I could do about it. I even took St Johns Wort and convinced myself that this would do the trick. Unfortunately, I was very disappointed to find that it didn't.

I would have dearly liked someone to have told me what to do next.

tattycath

I know it's much easier said than done and you may feel there is a mountain to climb, but just do it a bit at a time-chip away at it-it will get easier. I have had the anti-depressants and the counselling etc etc-even a hospital stay at one point. It wasn't until I had my LBM and decided if I could just get to grips with it I could control the illness as opposed to it controlling me.
Anyway, you know where we are if you need to 'chat'. AB is an absolute mine of information too.
Right, I need to now try and sort out my DDS anger issues...
Good luck Beth-you know you can do this you just have to convince yourself and fight your way out.

Sssssss

beachbeth wrote: »

Its preying on my mind the whole time - Im just trying to push it to the back of my mind. Im terrified they won't reinstate my benefit.

ok time to jump in and post a few thoughts, first of all Hi BB, Hi AB, good to see you guys here and the post is doing so well.

beachbeth I know it's hard not to keep thinking of the hearing, I also let a stupid letter over the weekend saying they were cutting of my benefits ruin my whole easter break. AB, really I did try not to let it worry me, because as you said it changes nothing. I think your words made things better for me but it is hard not to worry about these things. I think the hardest part was not being able to do anything about it, however today now that life was back to normal after the bank hols, I made a few calls, ran around a little and bingo everything sorted.

Okay so the next thing to deal with is I have a meeting with the letting agent tomorrow, having spoken to guy on the phone he sounds like a real t0sser, so yes I'm a little worried about the meeting. Ok lets look at the positive, the meeting is in MY home so if he misbehaves I'll just show him the door, it's not as though he has the power to put me and my family out in the street. Hey I feel better already

absolutebounder

beachbeth wrote: »

No, I said you can't understand depression because you haven't experienced it (not things in general). We can all understand the pain of a broken leg even if we've never experienced it. Therefore, we can understand the need for pain relief for this. However, I have found in my experience that people who haven't either:

1. Suffered with depression themselves
2. Lived closely with someone who suffers with depression

just don't understand depression and therefore don't understand what treatments work best.

Have you ever suffered with flu or other illness that makes you feel woolly headed? Imagine trying to arrange a dinner party for 10 or organise a big conference at work whilst feeling really ill with the flu. This is how it feels when you have depression. You just can't get your head to work properly to organise everything.

Well I can understand pain but i dont for certain know the pain of a broken leg as I havent broken one though I have torn ligaments in my knee which hurt hell of a lot. I know what you are saying and in some ways I agree but you dont know for certain what anyone elses feelings are. For example if we looked at a red dress would you see exactly the same red as me? Most GPs will treat ilnesses and conditions that they have never had. i dont expect too many psychiatrists have experience of schizophrenia yet they treat it or at least do their best to.
This is why I look at every one as an individual and if both Sssss and you were to see me I would speak to you in different ways.
First you have to try things and if they work great. and if they dont try to ascertain why and then try plan B and C and so on.
To me the fact that you changed from having a fairly normal happy life to one of depression means that you should be able to change back if someone can find a way to help you.

absolutebounder

Sssssss wrote: »

ok time to jump in and post a few thoughts, first of all Hi BB, Hi AB, good to see you guys here and the post is doing so well.

beachbeth I know it's hard not to keep thinking of the hearing, I also let a stupid letter over the weekend saying they were cutting of my benefits ruin my whole easter break. AB, really I did try not to let it worry me, because as you said it changes nothing. I think your words made things better for me but it is hard not to worry about these things. I think the hardest part was not being able to do anything about it, however today now that life was back to normal after the bank hols, I made a few calls, ran around a little and bingo everything sorted.

Thats good and im sure you feel better

Okay so the next thing to deal with is I have a meeting with the letting agent tomorrow, having spoken to guy on the phone he sounds like a real t0sser, so yes I'm a little worried about the meeting. Ok lets look at the positive, the meeting is in MY home so if he misbehaves I'll just show him the door, it's not as though he has the power to put me and my family out in the street. Hey I feel better already

one of the best ways of speaking to t0ssers is when they speak to you just stare at them and dont answer for about 6 seconds. It really un nerves them and if they say anything about it just say you are doing them the courtesy of considdering what they have said so that you can answer correctly having understood them properly.

Sssssss

beachbeth wrote: »

Thanks for your input. I agree with you and yet I don't find it is exactly as you say.

I can remember sitting at work with no particular stress or anything to worry about. The sun was shining and I didn't have a lot on my mind and yet I started to feel panicky about going home and getting the dinner etc. I knew as I felt these overwhelming feelings that depression was coming over me yet again. I tried to concentrate on all the good things - my OH, my nice house, my lovely daughters etc but the black cloud was coming over and there was nothing I could do about it. I even took St Johns Wort and convinced myself that this would do the trick. Unfortunately, I was very disappointed to find that it didn't.

I would have dearly liked someone to have told me what to do next.

wouldn't you say this was more a panic / anxiety attack. For me depression is more when you are in floods of tears and just don't know why, where you don't want to leave the house or see anyone and the worst nothing matters to the point where you want to take your own life. This was how I felt two years ago, ok I'm still on ADs but finally I can see getting back some sort of life together, is it better then before yes and no, yes I wish I was 17 again but age also brings wisdom and valuable lessons learnt. You had friends over for dinner now that's a big achievement.

beachbeth

Seems like we've been moved again. What is going on???