The depressively optimistic moneysaving thread

absolutebounder

This thread is for those who want to use the power of thought to move from a dark place to a brighter future.
lack of money and feeling worthless is depressing but it can be overcome.
This thread is for those who want to debate new thoughts and ideas. It is not in opposition to the depression support thread but might not be for those who believe internet hugs are all thats needed for support. This is for those who feel a little bit stronger and can take some constructive criticism.
Please do not discuss medication or treatments and please do not be nasty or rude. by all means disagree but do it with respect and preferably if you disagree with someone say why and put forward your arguments in a nice adult manner.
Just for openers Why do some people feel they cant move on because they feel like a failure

alison99_2

Thanks for starting this thread AB, I've missed your posts over the last week, as I've said before, you keep me sane. I'm very pro active in fighting my depression, I like to poke fun at myself, I'm also open to new ideas and welcome any input.
I have found a few unethical ways of dealing with my feelings, I won't go into them here, but they work for me.


What I don't do well is virtual hugs and that, I find these kind of things have a negative effect on me, so no hugging me ok

Space_donkey

Great Idea AB. I want to challenge myself to do more and be happy again. Ooh Alison Im dying to know what an unethical way of dealing with feelings is. Do share if its not breaking rules:D

alison99_2

Space_donkey wrote: »

Great Idea AB. I want to challenge myself to do more and be happy again. Ooh Alison Im dying to know what an unethical way of dealing with feelings is. Do share if its not breaking rules:D

Ummm, best not say that here, as I'm sure it would be breaking some rule or another.
This thread sounds like it's tailor made for me. I'm not a touchy feely type of person and other people's sympathy just depresses me more, even though I know they mean well, I'm the problem, not them.
I want someone who challenges me to help myself, because if I don't change my own life, how can I expect anyone else to do it for me.
So come on AB, I'm ready for you

Sssssss

good post AB, without knocking the other depression post which by the way was a real support to me last year, I also feel I'm now at a stage where I need to be challenged and need to move to the next level where only I can help myself.

I will post more later but am too knackered now having done another 12 hour day, but hey I passed my 2 month trail period and now have my contract

Sssssss

alison99 wrote: »

Thanks for starting this thread AB, I've missed your posts over the last week, as I've said before, you keep me sane. I'm very pro active in fighting my depression, I like to poke fun at myself, I'm also open to new ideas and welcome any input.
I have found a few unethical ways of dealing with my feelings, I won't go into them here, but they work for me and anyone is free to PM me to discuss them, although I would never suggest anyone does anything I do.

What I don't do well is virtual hugs and that, I find these kind of things have a negative effect on me, so no hugging me ok

ok PM on it's way, I need to know, no but seriously I'm dealing with some tough issues at the moment and dealing with some real dodgy people so at times we have to play them at their own game.

alison99_2

Sssssss wrote: »

ok PM on it's way, I need to know, no but seriously I'm dealing with some tough issues at the moment and dealing with some real dodgy people so at times we have to play them at their own game.

Hi Sssssss, I've sent you a pm, but as you can see I was a little vague. After coming to my senses, I realised that my coping techniques are a little too out there and have decided not to spill the beans, sorry, I'm such a tease

absolutebounder

alison99 wrote: »

Hi Sssssss, I've sent you a pm, but as you can see I was a little vague. After coming to my senses, I realised that my coping techniques are a little too out there and have decided not to spill the beans, sorry, I'm such a tease

Coping mechanisms are sometimes best because if you cant escape the cause of the depression then you can reduce its effect.
In my original post I put a question about feeling a failure which was just a common example that comes up a lot with depressed people. Now we all have beliefs and some of those are very strongly rooted in our unconcious. but remember if its a belief it basicaly is something that has never actually been proved to us so what happens if someone comes along and shoots that belief to bits in such a way that the unconcious can no longer hold on to it. in other words what happens if some one feels a failure? The first question is in what way are you failing? or failure compared to what? Then if you convince that person they are not a failure at all they will change. ive simplified it a bit but hopefully you get the idea. For example the most famous hypnotist around the UK is Paul Mckenna even though he is hardly ever here so compared to him Im a failure but I dont see it that way. I get sucess, Im happy and Im not bald so my brain finds it impossible to latch on to the failure idea. Even if I fail to hypnotise someone (yes it happens to all of us) I am still a sucess as I have gained new knowledge.

I think Sssss knows what I am on about after his dispute with his boss he has realised he doesnt have to take crap all the time.

Ssssss
good post AB, without knocking the other depression post which by the way was a real support to me last year, I also feel I'm now at a stage where I need to be challenged and need to move to the next level where only I can help myself.

There is no attempt on this thread to knock the depression support thread. This is more a compliment to it than anything else in that here we will help those like Alison who see pity and sympathy as patronising. Some people like it some dont simple as that. By helping people stay or get back into work should help with money and reduce the effects as well. being off sick is actually quite expensive especially with prescriptions etc.

*Chattie*

absolutebounder wrote: »

This thread is for those who want to use the power of thought to move from a dark place to a brighter future.
lack of money and feeling worthless is depressing but it can be overcome.
This thread is for those who want to debate new thoughts and ideas. It is not in opposition to the depression support thread but might not be for those who believe internet hugs are all thats needed for support. This is for those who feel a little bit stronger and can take some constructive criticism.
Please do not discuss medication or treatments and please do not be nasty or rude. by all means disagree but do it with respect and preferably if you disagree with someone say why and put forward your arguments in a nice adult manner.
Just for openers Why do some people feel they cant move on because they feel like a failure

I take it you mean debate your thoughts and ideas and I assume you mean your contruction criticism isn't nasty or rude :rolleyes:

I think you'll find that Discussion Time is further down the board and please don't patronise the users by wrapping up your hypnosis treatment as a method of saving money to keep this discussion on this board.

beachbeth

*Chattie* wrote: »

I take it you mean debate your thoughts and ideas and I assume you mean your contruction criticism isn't nasty or rude :rolleyes:

I think you'll find that Discussion Time is further down the board and please don't patronise the users by wrapping up your hypnosis treatment as a method of saving money to keep this discussion on this board.

I don't think your post is of help to anyone.

If you don't like AB or agree with his point of view then you don't have to be reading this thread. If he isn't breaking forum rules then he is allowed to have discussions with people whether it is about money, depression or simply which flowers look prettiest in a vase.:p

beachbeth

absolutebounder wrote: »

what happens if some one feels a failure? The first question is in what way are you failing? or failure compared to what? Then if you convince that person they are not a failure at all they will change.

I personally feel I am a failure because I used to work and earn money as well as looking after my two girls and husband. Then depression came along and I tried:

1. Ignoring it and hoping it would go away
2. Getting angry and fighting it and hoping it would go away
3. Giving in to it and getting treatment from the doctor and hoping it would go away

I struggled back to work so many times because Im not a sciving so and so who is happy to live off benefits and because I want to set a good example to my children and make my husband proud of me.

People think a thread about depression has nothing to do with moneysaving when, in fact, it does because depression is stopping me working and earning money. We could be paying our mortgage off in no time if I was able to work. Therefore I need help to rid myself of depression and also find out how to work our money better.

Im fed up with struggling with depression and fed up with people coming onto threads like this and attempting to disrupt discussions when they don't understand what we are all trying to do.