Support for people with Depression

shazrobo

sorry to hear about sam's grandad anni, (((hugs))) congratulations on the wedding plans.

had a day of feeling down and tired, and in need of a hug, ian has text me, but i havent replied, cant see point myself. i dont see the point of seeing each other as friends, and he dosent get it, he dosent seem to have been affected by our split, like i have.

hugs all
shaz xxx

Tulip

:hello: Everyone,

Hope you are all ok.I watched a lovely film on BT Vision tonight and it was great.Hope you all had a lovely evening too.


love and light,

Katie xxx

jenniewb

willa wrote: »

Aw jenniewb I really feel for you, I don't usually meet people who have it as bad as me.
I think I know which tab you mean, I've been getting it for years and years, otc tabs just don't touch the pain for me.
I've been told so many different things by docs and pharmacists about how often you can take it. I would've said 3 times a day is right but a pharmacist told me no you can take it more frequently (also a doc) so I did and do (because as you say, the body seems to be saying 'more painkillers NOW! not in a couple of hours time') but I too worry about od'ing on it. Sometimes when the pain/nausea/distress is so bad you will do anything to get rid of it. Don't mean to alarm anybody, I'm not talking deliberate od or anything.
I did hear a year or two ago that Buscopan could work on p pains and wondered about it because of concerns over the other med - I take it for my IBS anyway occasionally. Be scared to try it though as the other stuff usually works and if it didn't work :eek:.
Do you use hot water bottles? I have to have them as well as the tabs to really conquer it.
Good luck with your investigations. PM me any time if you want.
xxxx

I do use hot waterbottles! Thanks for your reply. But I also get hot and cold flashes and can end up with my clothes soaked so can only partially use hot things, but it does help when I can do.

Was trying to workout if there was any family connections with it all but my mum is really not helping! I asked her if she had bad period pains (she is now in the menopause) and she said no. Now I know that she did- I jsut wated more info, she's normally very open about these things but had decided that she never experienced any period pains. Yet when I told her which pill I had been prescribed, she said she had been taking the same thing! She even offered me some of her stash (sadly it was all out of date).
I'd have said it was dementia, (which runs in the family) but its not the first time something like this has happened- she'll remember the real story later on 6 months later when I re-ask her, she'll remember everything in full colour, with dementia you tend to forget for good. (plus it was like this through much of my childhood).
I think she just has a selective memory, her life exists on her blackberry, and my relationship with her just seems to exist in the spaces between the thing going off!

jenniewb

aliasojo wrote: »

Did anyone see this? I spotted it this morning on MSN news.....

A "dark side" to the internet suggests a strong link between time spent surfing the web and depression, say psychologists.
British scientists found that the longer people spent online, the less likely they were to be happy.
A small group of the worst affected individuals were both depressed and addicted.
But it was not clear whether using the internet causes mental health problems, or whether people with mental health problems are drawn to the internet.
More work is needed to answer this "chicken and egg" question, say the researchers.
Study leader Dr Catriona Morrison, from the Institute of Psychological Sciences at the University of Leeds, said: "The internet now plays a huge part in modern life, but its benefits are accompanied by a darker side."
The scientists employed the internet to carry out their research.

I have to say, the internet does make me feel worse when I'm already feeling low and since I'm fairly isolated, my life tends to be lived online a lot so that causes me a problem.

Oh and food without doubt affects my moods. Carbs affect me negatively. I'm always happier when I eat a low carb diet.

I've not read the report but can understand it. We are bilogically programmed to need physical interaction, apparently it sets off hormones and feel good chemicals in out brains. With a computer try as you may it is not possible to actually physically put your arms around someone, though it can help to try!

People often find themselves eating more or eating in front of a computer or TV as it comes close....but never actually meets that one need for physical interaction. People can eat to try to meet that need. Eating makes your body release the feel good chemcials and can help for a few moments, but ultimatly does not fix the need (only partially deals with it in a chemical way) so people keep on eating. It can be a hard cycle to break as once you stop really connecting with people on a real life level (you can have day to day friends but nothing really very close) it can be hard to ever get back the physical and emotional relationships you actually need just to stay emotionally healthy (and so not at such risk of depression).

Its unfortunate carbs don't work for you- of all the foods they are the ones which do actually more then any other food, release the feel good hormones and chemicals in your head (seratonine being one of them) other foods do too but not to such an extent. Or is it refined carbs your talking about (rather then complex carbs like wholegrain rice, multi grain bread, sweet potato...etc)?
Milk is supposed to be another good food for depression, I;ve heard it also boosts seratonin.

But the best one I've heard? things with Omega 3 and 6 oils in them. Fish, flaxseed, eggs (I think!) its because it adds to the brain and in a good way. Short fact is scientists still don't really know exactly how the brain works as yet, they only know from trial and improvement and tests have been done to show omega 3 and 6 oils can help with mental health problems like depression. You can take capsuals but its better to eat the food as your body is more able to utilise the oils, it has to work a lot harder to use them when in a pill form and alot just gets discarded.

beachbeth

I would think that its more the case that someone who is depressed is more likely to surf the web than the fact that surfing the web causes depression. If Im having a bad day I may not want to be out and about conversing with people but I can come on the web, read and post. Or I can just read and not post, theres no obligation to do anything on the web and no pressure. I could be sitting here laughing and happy or shaking and in floods of tears but none of you would know - only if I tell you.

jenniewb, I really love carbs and find that if I don't eat enough I get very irritable, especially at the time of the month. That doesn't mean I have to stuff myself with them, as long as I have some throughout the day. I also love eggs! Doesn't matter if they are fried, boiled, poached, scrambled, I really love them, especially for breakfast.

Hope everyone is ok this morning - wish it would stop raining. Its miserable, dirty weather and I have to keep mopping the floor because of the dogs coming in and out!

aliasojo

beachbeth wrote: »

I would think that its more the case that someone who is depressed is more likely to surf the web than the fact that surfing the web causes depression.

See I would agree with that, in theory. It makes perfect sense to me.

BUT.....in my own case, I do feel that I used to be happier, better able to cope with things, more interesting, healthier, before I became so involved with the internet.

I'm not for one moment suggesting the net is the source of all my problems but when we had to temporarily move out whilst work was going on in our home, we had no internet access at all for weeks. The first week we spent staring into space or wandering about aimlessly, bored and boring. After that, we all felt happier and were better pleased with simple things like going for a walk etc. It was interesting that we all felt the same way. I honestly believe the net (in our home) does have a negative effect on life, if over used. It's like anything else in life, a little of something does you good...too much can perhaps be harmful.

That may well boil down to the point made by jennie about the need for physical interaction. I suspect some part of our subconcious is crying out for *real* involvement but we ignore that need and try to shut it up with another thread on MSE.

Anyway, I'm off to the hairdresser this morning...this will be the most 'physical interaction' I've had for ages.

Have a good day everyone.

aliasojo

beachbeth wrote: »

jenniewb, I really love carbs and find that if I don't eat enough I get very irritable, especially at the time of the month.

Actually, I was like this....until I stopped eating them. My moods are definitely more balanced now and TOTM is nowhere near as bad as it used to be. In fact sometimes they 'appear' and I haven't realised it was getting to that time, simply because I haven't felt the usual 'irritable and annoyed feelings' that I used to get.

For me, a low carb diet is without doubt right for my body. My only problem is that my tastebuds still enjoy carbs and I have to fight the feeling sometimes in the way an alcoholic has to avoid booze.

As soon as I eat something with carbs, I then crave them desperately.

Sazbo

Good morning lovelies :hello:

Another interesting discussion Fascinating what you said alias, about how you all felt when you were forced to do without the internet. Think I'd be :eek: followed by _pale_ !! :rotfl:

I definitely think when I was living on my own for years, it did partly function as providing company. I didn't feel lonely all the time and I did go out a fair bit too, but just sometimes when I was at a loose end at home, and fancied a chat, then it was nice to go online and talk to friends. And I still like to keep in touch with friends online, but nowadays it's more a case of dipping in and out. I'd like to think that if I had to go without the internet I'd develop lots of worthwhile hobbies and pursuits, but I know full well what I'm like and that wouldn't be the case lol:o :rotfl:

And I'm with you on the carb cravings. On the whole, considering I used to be a person who loved making their own pasta and bread from scratch every week, I don't do too badly with cutting them out... but from time to time all I want is a Sloppy Guiseppe from Pizza Express and nothing else will do! :rotfl: But I thought I would miss rice and potatoes a lot more than I actually have, tbh.

Jennie - you are absolutely right about Omega 3 and 6 - the difficulty with getting them from food sources is that you should ensure you are getting the correct ratio of omega 3 to 6 (needless to say I can't remember now what the correct ratio is lol) - but modern western diets typically have too much omega 6 - from eggs and vegetable oils - so supplementing omega 3 can help redress that imbalance. I take a teaspoon on high-dose omega 3 oil every day... at least I say that... half the time I forget lol:o

Have fun at the hairdressers, alias.

Hope everyone's doing ok. And let's hope this bloomin' rain gives over for 5 mins :rolleseyes: That certainly does nothing to lift my depression.

Much love to all,
Sazzy xxxxxxxxx

ETA: Lady M - so sorry to hear about Sam's granddad - hugs to you both. I would love to know what your verdict is once you've looked at your wedding venue - is very exciting to be making plans:)

Indie_Kid

What you lot have said about PMT and depression is interesting:
A friend of mine (I had no idea at the time how serious he was) did suggest this was the cause of my depression and self harm. (what was happening with us didn't help me at all)

Interestingly, I've had nothing but problems with depression for the last few weeks and couldn't work out why. (the people I live with aren't helping at all)

Now, it does make sense.

sandy71

Hello everyone.
Had an ermm eventful couuple of days! On Tuesday I had a seizure at the top of the stairs, not the best place to have one:o
I woke up in an ambulance which I hate anyway:mad: I was kept in overnight due to the lump on my head the size of everest.
I have a broken wrist, banging headache and some spectaculr bruises.:(

I'm trying to carry on and be all cheerful but I am so upset about it, I just want to be normal again and go out alone:(