Esa Medicle exam Twisted everything i have said!!

sharski

Jox... you've been placed in the 'work-related' group so therefore have not failed your medical....
You now have the help & support of the JC to EVENTUALLY get you back to work - no one is saying that you must look for work immediately.

Therefore I can't see how you can appeal against anything?????

When you attend the JC, ask about a scheme called CMP (Condition Management Programme).... that may help manage your pain.

nogginthenog

ESA wrote: »

I aksed this before, and will ask it again of the people who are saying to appeal, what appealable decision has there been?

The OP disagrees with the doctors version of events pertaining to the ESA medical...Best now left to the legal eagles.
At least in a police interview it can be taped to be used as proof. The ESA doctors will not accept the use of recorders even if you ask!

SomeBozo

Oh my.

What a mess the thread has become.

You have Garry_Anderson bleating along like a broken record, hijacking someone elses thread, trying to prove a point that can't be proven, taking jabs at everyone from other posters to the government.

You have the OP in distress trying to justify a position that no one else can have an informed opinion on. A person who can make a contribution and improve their life if only they wished to , who prefers to be written off, instead of looking at their positives.

I am bowing out folks......... this argument can't be won.


Bozo

NASA_2

nogginthenog wrote: »

The OP disagrees with the doctors version of events pertaining to the ESA medical...Best now left to the legal eagles.
At least in a police interview it can be taped to be used as proof. The ESA doctors will not accept the use of recorders even if you ask!

He didnt fail the medical though.

He is whining that the doctor thinks he might be able to look for work or be interested in seeing a careers adviser.

The 'Medical' and the WFHRA are two seperate things

seven-day-weekend

I feel genuinely sorry for the OP if he feels he is being 'pushed ' into work he is not ready for.

However, surely seeing a careers advisor to talk about something he may be able to do in the future is a positive move?

If indeed it is a work-focussed interview and not a 'medical' then obviously they will be looking at what he can do, and not what he can't. Which is why they asked him 'unexpected' questions.

Providing they are realistic about his prospects and don't try to 'push' him into things he can't do then I think this is a good move.

NASA_2

healy wrote: »

I think they can appeal to be put into the support group rather than the employment group.

That can be appealed but IMO jox has absolutely no hope of being placed in the Support group. In northern Ireland we have had something like 4,000 claims and next to no-one has been put into the Support group. Of those that have the vast majority of them have been terminally ill and the vast majority of the remainder have severe mental illness.

In my experience DWP take an even tougher line on things.

Garry_Anderson

Trasthmatic wrote: »

What you wrote was this <quote>

You are not referring to the OP, you are making a sweeping statement about chronic pain. You even asked us to look up the definition. I did just that. If someone had chronic severe pain you might have a point. Chronic is a much abused word in the English language and I was merely pointing this out.

So Gazza, next time try to get your words right before you go off on one.

Sorry Trashy - but it was written *after* the OP - so you should have understood that is what it refered to.

I will try to remember to spell things out for you in future

Garry_Anderson

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I feel genuinely sorry for the OP if he feels he is being 'pushed ' into work he is not ready for.

However, surely seeing a careers advisor to talk about something he may be able to do in the future is a positive move?

If indeed it is a work-focussed interview and not a 'medical' then obviously they will be looking at what he can do, and not what he can't. Which is why they asked him 'unexpected' questions.

Providing they are realistic about his prospects and don't try to 'push' him into things he can't do then I think this is a good move.

Positive move?

The only positive thing I see is you are putting positive spin on what has happened i.e. the medical being fiddled by examiner to make it look like OP can do things they cannot.

Which has clearly distressed him - but you call that a "positive move".

NASA_2

It wasnt the medical - it was the WFHRA.

atomicsheep

ESA wrote: »

That can be appealed but IMO jox has absolutely no hope of being placed in the Support group. In northern Ireland we have had something like 4,000 claims and next to no-one has been put into the Support group. Of those that have the vast majority of them have been terminally ill and the vast majority of the remainder have severe mental illness.

In my experience DWP take an even tougher line on things.

Are you taking your claims over CAM yet ESA? Your boys visited us to observe