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Esa Medicle exam Twisted everything i have said!!

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  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    Are you taking your claims over CAM yet ESA? Your boys visited us to observe
    The claims have been taken over CAM since 27th of October. If it worked as intended it would be a great system - sadly some of the questions are flawed and the information doesnt push between systems as was intended either:sad:
  • Garry_Anderson
    Garry_Anderson Posts: 11,896 Forumite
    ESA wrote: »
    It wasnt the medical - it was the WFHRA.
    Typical New Labour government type spin - it is a subjective medical assessment to see what work you can do - in this case, according to OP, the examiner lied.

    BTW: IB50 medicals are not usually strip down medicals either - they are similar subjective medical assessment.
  • nogginthenog
    nogginthenog Posts: 2,649 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    The OP thinks he/she should have been put into a support group,
    So He/sho should appeal...AND TAKE ADVICE.

    Refused support group
    Claimants who are awarded ESA, but only the work-related activity component, not the support component also have a right of appeal.
    The DWP estimate that around 6,000 people a year who are currently exempt from the PCA will not be placed in the support group and that all of these claimants will appeal.
    Sanctions
    Claimants whose ESA is sanctioned will have a right to appeal against that sanction.
    The DWP expect around 0.5% of new claimants will have their ESA sanctioned, resulting in a further 1,500 appeals a year
    Child of a Fighting Race.
  • nogginthenog
    nogginthenog Posts: 2,649 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    ESA wrote: »
    It wasnt the medical - it was the WFHRA.

    If you get examined by a medical proffesional...its by all means a medical.

    Employment and Support Allowance medicals

    PDF Print Email Under employment and support allowance, the personal capability assessment has been replaced by a new medical test: the work capability assessment.
    Not everyone will have to have a medical examination. A small percentage of employment and support allowance claimants will be found to be incapable of work-related activity and eligible to join the Support Group. The aim of the DWP is that these claimants will, wherever possible, be assessed just on the basis of evidence from their doctor and/or the evidence in their completed questionnaire.

    For those who do have to undergo a medical, the process is divided into:
    • a limited capability for work assessment
    • a limited capability for work-related activity assessment
    • a work-focused health related assessment.
    Limited capability for work assessment
    The limited capability for work assessment is used to decide whether you meet the medical criteria for entry into the work-related activity group. The medical is similar to the current personal capability assessment used for incapacity benefit. Doctors and nurses will continue to rely on LiMA computer software to carry out the assessment.

    As with the personal capability assessment the physical test is divided into a range of activities and you need to score 15 points to pass. However, the much harsher revised test used with Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) contains fewer opportunities to score points and so is harder to pass.

    The mental health test, on the other hand, is much more complex than the current one. The new test is similar in style to the current physical health test, being divided into a range of activities and descriptors. Again, you need to score at least 15 points to pass.

    If you get a combined score of 15 or more from the physical and mental health test will also pass.

    Limited capability for work-related activity assessment.
    This further test is undertaken only by people who pass the first test to decide whether you are so severely disabled that you qualify for the Support Group. Like the first test, it is based on a number of activities. But in this test if tyou are incapable of carrying out any single one of the descriptors this will be sufficient to pass the test.

    Work-focused health related assessment
    This is a further assessment, usuallycarried out as part of the same medical. It concentrates on which activities you can still manage and looks at which work-related activities might help you move into work. The resulting capability report isbe used by your Personal Adviser when carrying out the five compulsory work focused interviews.
    Child of a Fighting Race.
  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    nogginthenog, what I mean is that the WFHRA does not decide whether your entitled to benefit, or even what part of the benefit you fall into.

    Therefore it isnt appealable.

    In that sense it isnt part of the 'medical.'
  • real1314
    real1314 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
    Is the OP even looking at this any more? :confused:
  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    real1314 wrote: »
    Is the OP even looking at this any more? :confused:
    Probably filling in a form for Maternity Allowance.
  • rachel6188
    rachel6188 Posts: 413 Forumite
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    are you on dla??
    any pain relief??
    im asking myself coz i had something similar a 2 years ago and im on morphine for pain relief...i appealed against the ib medical and was re awarded it and havent got to go for a medical for 3 years...my problems alot more complicated than most.
    rach x


    hanny83 wrote: »
    Don't start using the disabled card. No one here has posted a negative comment on disabled people. Just because you don't like what you are reading it doesn't make it justifiable to generalise about people on here discriminating against those less able.

    Anything that you don't agree with from the report you can take up at an appeal if you are deemed not eligible for ESA.
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    rachel6188 wrote: »
    are you on dla??
    any pain relief??
    im asking myself coz i had something similar a 2 years ago and im on morphine for pain relief...i appealed against the ib medical and was re awarded it and havent got to go for a medical for 3 years...my problems alot more complicated than most.
    rach x

    The OP does receive DLA and they do receive pain relief, this is mentioned earlier in the thread.

    They have not failed their medical, they have passed but they are not happy about being put in the work related part of ESA and think they should be in the Support group. After that they were not happy when posters did not agree with them.
  • LYNSTEG
    LYNSTEG Posts: 17 Forumite
    See next time you go to to a incapacity benefit exam,please go with a friend,and you are also allowed to tape the session and your friend can take notes,and as for the lady being friendly dont make me laugh, she is trying to get you off guard, its all about the money.
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