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Low-carb diets support thread

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  • newcook
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    ooh I love a good brew!! though I havent had sugar/sweetener since I was about 11 (am 29 now) - every now and then though I will have a 1/4 of a teaspoon for a bit of a pick me up which doesnt sound much to sugar takers but if you dont usually have it, you can def taste it!

    have got a lovely shepherds pie in the oven (with BNS mash) so am going to have a sok in the bath with a glass of wine, my book and a crafty fag while its cooking and have an early night as I got drunk last night and Im knackered!!! honestly, Im sure every now and then I think Im a teenager and can go out drinking and be fresh as a daisy the following day!!! I still dont get hangovers but it takes me a full day for my batteries to re-charge!
  • Found this whilst doing some research of my own. Don't know if this is of interest to those struggling to balance/bring down their blood sugars....

    Last week I asked if people doing low-carb or zero-carb might be willing to test their blood glucose before and after meals and report their results. Many finger sticks later, we have a few tentative observations. Please note, this was NOT a scientific study in any way. Don't change your life or your eating habits based on what you read here. The purpose of this post is to consider ideas and to raise possibilities, particularly if you have been having trouble succeeding on low-carb or zero-carb. That said, here are the patterns that seemed to emerge from the data.

    1. Some people, particularly people over 50, do have an increase in blood glucose following meals that are either entirely or mostly meat and fat. Dr. Bernstein says the optimum level of blood glucose is 83 mg/dl. For zero-carbers over 50, the fasting blood glucose was often somewhere between 95 and 110 mg/dl and could even go as high as the high teens. For long-time low-carbers over 50, fasting blood glucose was usually somewhere in the 80's. In both low-carbers and zero-carbers over 50, it was not unusual to have a 30-40 mg/dl rise in blood glucose after consuming a large amount of protein, such as a 12-ounce ribeye. Because protein is slowly digested, blood glucose levels sometimes stayed elevated for three to five hours or longer. It is important to remember that at blood sugars above about 100 mg/dl, insulin is secreted and its presence keeps fat in the fat cells. This may explain why low-carbers over 50 have such a hard time losing weight if they eat as much protein as they want. Insulin levels stay elevated for long periods, forcing most of what they eat into storage, and keeping it there until insulin levels finally come down again.

    2. Most people under age 50 do not have a rise in blood glucose following a meal, even a large meal, that is mostly meat and fat. I had three participants in the under-50 group whose blood sugars stayed approximately in the 80's following meals ranging from a 1/3 pound hamburger to a ribeye steak. Two of them told me that they occasionally see rises to near 100 mg/dl, but often there is no rise at all.

    3. Decreasing protein intake in two participants over 50 to the amount recommended at Blood Sugar 101 caused a decline in average pre-meal blood glucose to the low 90's and post-meal glucose values between about 90 and 110 mg/dl. In fact, both of them started losing weight again after several months of eating as much protein as they wanted and gradually gaining weight.
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  • aliasojo wrote: »
    Well, if you compare what you do, with us when we cheat.....we're pretty similar really. :rotfl: I'm not sure if us/this thread will be of any benefit to you but you're welcome to hang around and gab just in case. :D

    :D Like I said I've been lurking and pinching ideas here and there. I think my issue with "substitutes" is that it highlights the missing carbs, whereas I find if I don't substitute, I don't notice what I'm missing if that makes sense?

    I've ended up sticking with cereal for breakfast because although I'd happily eat eggs and bacon everyday, eggs tend to have the opposite effect of ExLax on me :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Suppose if I did start using cauliflower as a substitute it would take care of that little problem :D
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  • ~daisy~_2
    ~daisy~_2 Posts: 2,566 Forumite
    hi all :)

    mazzers - whats the name of that stuff your taking to curb cravings please ?

    struggling big time trying to get back on track and am huge and round and fat :(
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  • sistercas
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    CDR thanks for that that was a really interesting article. I have tried the calculator and I need 15.9g of protein a day :D

    I dont understand the american blood sugar levels though :cool:
  • daedana
    daedana Posts: 151 Forumite
    I have found that low carb diet does wonders to my well being. I suffer from MS and was barely able to walk just 6 months ago. Now I can walk already fairly well for little distances.
    I'm not sure if thanking only the diet is the correct choice, but I believe it has helped. I recommend for everyone. And for a little more everyday examples, my wife has gotten a lot more energetic thanks to this diet. :)
  • sistercas wrote: »
    I dont understand the american blood sugar levels though :cool:


    No, neither do I, annoying cos it doesn't make any sense until you know what the BG conversions work out to.

    regards CWR
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  • mazzers
    mazzers Posts: 4,234 Forumite
    ~daisy~ wrote: »
    hi all :)

    mazzers - whats the name of that stuff your taking to curb cravings please ?

    struggling big time trying to get back on track and am huge and round and fat :(

    Do you mean the acidophilous?
    sistercas wrote: »
    CDR thanks for that that was a really interesting article. I have tried the calculator and I need 15.9g of protein a day :D

    I dont understand the american blood sugar levels though :cool:

    The American measurement you just need to divide by 18
    eg 83 divided by 18 = 4.6

    Thanks CWR, that explains things, another drawback to being over 50 then :(
  • mazzers
    mazzers Posts: 4,234 Forumite
    aliasojo wrote: »
    Maz, I got a Clean & Clear kit when they were on a Boots glitch, should have been £12 but they were going through the tills at £2.50. It had a face wash, a moisturiser and a spot cream in it.

    The first time I used the face wash, my face stung a bit but nothing too drastic. I used it again the following morning in the shower and my face immediately became sore, red and swollen. It was as if I'd been burnt. The skin round my eyes was puffy and nippy.

    :rotfl:

    I remember it now :rotfl:
    Its not that bad a reaction for me, but it does sting, i've used it twice to no illl effect apart from the sting.
    No wonder its in the pound shop, couldn't bloody sell it :D
  • mazzers
    mazzers Posts: 4,234 Forumite
    sistercas wrote: »
    CDR thanks for that that was a really interesting article. I have tried the calculator and I need 15.9g of protein a day :D

    I dont understand the american blood sugar levels though :cool:

    Think i only need 9g protein per day, that cant be right surely, there is 20g of protein in an average chicken breast.
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