Low-carb diets support thread

boots_babe

pink_princess wrote: »

Boots babe, what is the spinach bread? Sounds good :

It's from Rose Elliot's book, recipe is below. Super duper easy to do, and tastes good too. Mine went well with my soup.

280g frozen chopped spinach - defrosted and drained
4 eggs, beaten
1 garlic clove, peeled and crushed
Salt and pepper.

Mix all ingredients together in a bowl.
Line a Swiss roll tin with non stick paper.
Pour in the mixture and cook at 180 degrees for 10-15 mins until firm and springy.

Leave to cool then peel off the paper and cut it up.

Kept some of mine in the fridge for a whole week and it was fine. The book also suggests then putting it under the grill, with or without toppings, for a pizza type effect but not tried that.

5.8g carbs and 36g protein for the whole amount.

pink_princess

Thanks, I have all those ingredients in.

I will try it on Thursday when I am day off

SHEILA54

Thank you for your kind wishes.

hannoja - fasting seems to be the in thing and I do believe that it can help but don't overdo it. I went on a 500 cal diet for 6 months when I was 18 and I got slimmer for my holiday but whilst away put on over a stone!!

pink princess - I will have a look at Devil's claw, thank you

I was reading the Daily Mail yesterday and it suggests a DASH diet devised by a cardiologist which has been voted the healthiest diet in the US. This is an initial 2 week plan and then items are added.

Allowed
Lean Meat
Fish & Poultry
Beans and lentils
Soy - not for me :eek:
Low fat cheeses
Eggs
Unsweetened Yogurt - 1 pot a day
Avocados
Olive / nut oils
Nuts
Fatty fish e.g. salmon
Sugar free jelly
Copious vegetables except starchy

Avoid
Starchy foods other than beans
i.e. no bread, potatoes, rice, battered food, sugary food inc fruit, alcohol, caffeinated beverages, milk

3 main meals a day + 3 snacks

Drink 8 glasses minimum of water a day, vegetable juice (including tomato), herbal teas

snacks - low fat cheese with celery, peanut butter with celery, low fat hummous with crudites, handful nuts, red pepper strips with guacamole, lettuce wrap with cheese slice wrapped around chicken

It also suggests that you avoid strenuous exercise for 2 weeks and walk or do gentle yoga as you may feel tired whilst your body adjusts. Also suggests going to bed early to allow body to rest.

After 2 weeks you start to add back some items but isn't this a low carb low fat diet? It is suggested for people with heart, cholesterol, diabetes but, to me, gives clear outlines and could help someone who likes to be told what to eat. You also ramp up the exercise after 2 weeks which I am sure murphydog will be pleased to hear

What do you think?

Have a good day :hello:

hannoja

Haven't read your whole post - in a rush.. but must say, it is NOT fasting! It is INTERMITTENT fasting. There is a HUGE difference, as the links will explain!

SHEILA54

hannoja wrote: »

Haven't read your whole post - in a rush.. but must say, it is NOT fasting! It is INTERMITTENT fasting. There is a HUGE difference, as the links will explain!

Hi
I know that you are only fasting sometimes and that it is good for you. Maybe I am jealous of your commitment Well done on staying motivated :T

murphydog999

boots_babe wrote: »

280g frozen chopped spinach - defrosted and drained
4 eggs, beaten
1 garlic clove, peeled and crushed
Salt and pepper.

Isn't this just a spinach omelette??

murphydog999

SHEILA54 wrote: »

I was reading the Daily Mail yesterday and it suggests a DASH diet devised by a cardiologist which has been voted the healthiest diet in the US. This is an initial 2 week plan and then items are added.

Allowed
Lean Meat
Fish & Poultry
Beans and lentils
Soy - not for me :eek:
Low fat cheeses
Eggs
Unsweetened Yogurt - 1 pot a day
Avocados
Olive / nut oils
Nuts
Fatty fish e.g. salmon
Sugar free jelly
Copious vegetables except starchy

Avoid
Starchy foods other than beans
i.e. no bread, potatoes, rice, battered food, sugary food inc fruit, alcohol, caffeinated beverages, milk

3 main meals a day + 3 snacks

Drink 8 glasses minimum of water a day, vegetable juice (including tomato), herbal teas

snacks - low fat cheese with celery, peanut butter with celery, low fat hummous with crudites, handful nuts, red pepper strips with guacamole, lettuce wrap with cheese slice wrapped around chicken

It also suggests that you avoid strenuous exercise for 2 weeks and walk or do gentle yoga as you may feel tired whilst your body adjusts. Also suggests going to bed early to allow body to rest.

After 2 weeks you start to add back some items but isn't this a low carb low fat diet? It is suggested for people with heart, cholesterol, diabetes but, to me, gives clear outlines and could help someone who likes to be told what to eat. You also ramp up the exercise after 2 weeks which I am sure murphydog will be pleased to hear

Hi Sheila, this is a low-carb/sugar, no saturated fat diet, by the looks of things. I really don't like the amount of times you are recommended to eat - eat when you are hungry should be the mantra really, rather than eating because it's 'tea-time,' or whenever.

The USA really has a big thing going with soy products, the jury is still very much out on this stuff, and I for one prefer not to eat GM products, of which wheat is another. But the 'diet' has it's merits because it is basically just a healthy-eating plan.

I suppose if you eat mainly carbs and cut down to almost nothing you would feel 'iffy,' but IMO the exercise recommendations are a bit molly-coddling, everyone is different. As for 'been voted as,' and 'healthiest,' these are both phrases that don't mean a lot in the real world. I'm sure it would help some people though.

Are you grinning and bearing your sciatica, or have you been to see someone? An osteopath perhaps? You shouldn't have to put up with it as it's treatable.

Meant to say, for breakfast had greek yogurt with raspberries, chopped pistachios, sprinkling of flax with goji berries and a dash of double cream, what a yummy combination that was

durham_mim

murphydog999 wrote: »

Are you grinning and bearing your sciatica, or have you been to see someone? An osteopath perhaps? You shouldn't have to put up with it as it's treatable.

I'd no idea it was treatable. I thought the only treatment was rest. I too suffer from sciatica, as well as Restless Leg Syndrome and pains in my knee joints. My sleep is often interrupted by one or the other of these complaints.

SHEILA54

Sorry to hear that durham_mim - not pleasant at all . Do you find the bedclothes heavy on your legs? I think that the treatment for any problem now is exercise rather than rest and I know that, whether it is my upper or lower back, getting up for an hour or two in the night seems to help the pain if not my sleep.

murphydog - it is low fat but doesn't seem to be no fat as cheese, yogurt, nuts, avocado and oil are included. It does seem to reinforce the fact that carbs need to be cut to be healthy, which must be good
http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/dash-diet-does-it-work-healthiest-blood-pressure-heart-protein-atkins-132008635.html. I am not endorsing it but do like to keep an eye on what is going on and tweaking things sometimes, for a short period. I think that the idea is, by eating often, you won't get hungry.

I don't eat soy or wheat products ( except when I fail and have a mince pie as I have recently). Not worth the aftermath of wind and stomach gripes as I know now that I must have a wheat intolerance.

With regard to sciatica, I am hoping that it will sort on it's own as I already have painkillers for my neck and anyway am loathe to take anything unless really necessary. I was diagnosed with a cyst on my lower spine a few years ago and they wanted to operate but I put it off and the pain got better. Maybe it has flared up again but I don't like interfering with anything unless I have to as I have had several bad experiences. Any suggested exercises to help or release pressure on the facet joints would be useful though

How is the new house? Have you made friends? Also your breakfast sounds yummy and very similar to mine

hannoja - have you forgiven me?

Sorry to have moaned as I know that there are many people on this board with health problems.

murphydog999

My husband used to suffer from sciatica bought on by tension caused from a couple of dodgy discs. Plus, he would always train and not stretch afterwards. Over the years, I've [STRIKE]nagged[/STRIKE] persuaded him to take pilates classes, join me in stretching exercises, go regularly to an osteopath, and get a good massage when possible.

He doesn't get sciatica any more and his back functions a lot better. About 10 years ago an army doctor looked at all his scans and said he would need walking aids within 5 years, he was only 38! What tosh!

Now he knows what he should be doing - maintaining a strong core, keeping supple, stretching exercises regularly, and not over-training :doh: - he's as fit as a fiddle.

So, what I am saying Sheila - what I am always saying - is the importance of keeping supple and trying to alleviate tension that causes the spasms that cause sciatica. Your hamstrings and hip flexors (top, front thigh) play a really big part in back aches and tension if they are tight.

If you have never been to an osteopath, I would most heartily recommend it, unlike chiropractors they take a whole body approach and with your back issues you would def. benefit. They will also give you remedial exercises particular to your needs.

Taking painkillers does nothing to tackle the cause and you may think all is well for a time, only for it to flare up again.

Re. the house, just waiting for planning dept to come back to me to see if we can do what we want; it's got hardly any insulation, a poor heating system, and I dread to think of the amount of oil we are using at the moment! Just organising some fitness activities for the new year and will look forward to meeting a few like-minded people then - hopefully!