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curriej99

hi jim - yes, i think the difference is whether free WAP bolt-on is the same thing as free WEB bolt-on. If it is, then I'm quids in. If not, then perhaps I need to supplement my £20 with a further amount (you reckon £7 more but other sources tell me it's £20).
My asking O2 customer services only results in them telling me 'You have to upgrade to a £35/month tariff', which i'd rather bypass, for obvious reasons.
Perhaps, as you seem to suggest, I can upgrade to the 'WEB Bolt-on' for £7. - this sounds do-able, and would mean i would pay £27/month for unlimited iphone access, and still retain my 600mins/500txts.
Bottom line is.. - i would like to be able to use my mobile for decent web access, and once i have the link, i can 'hi-jack' my iphone so i can use my laptop (macbook) as a browser via my £20/mnth iphone.
Sorry this sounds complicated, but i'm sure you know what i mean.
j

Marty_J

asininity wrote: »

The first iphone was a gimmick, compared to other phones it didn't do much, which could be said of the current one, the update will help.

Dont get me wrong it changed the phone market but it sold so well on the back of being the first touch screen phone, which is a gimmick however good it is, not a phones features.

The first iPhone was, well, it was the first iPhone. Pretty good for any company's first phone if you ask me.

The iPhone does loads though. It has over 25,000 applications in the app store and a community of 50,000 developers, which is good going considering it hasn't even been out for 2 years.

I don't get it at all when people say it doesn't do much, or it's a gimmick. I also don't understand why people are distrustful of Apple or belittle their products just because they look really nice, are really simple to use, or are good at marketing.

If we followed that logic, the best products would be ugly, hard to use, and practically unknown.

Regardless, here's an interesting article I was reading earlier.

Marty_J

curriej99 wrote: »

hi jim - yes, i think the difference is whether free WAP bolt-on is the same thing as free WEB bolt-on. If it is, then I'm quids in. If not, then perhaps I need to supplement my £20 with a further amount (you reckon £7 more but other sources tell me it's £20).
My asking O2 customer services only results in them telling me 'You have to upgrade to a £35/month tariff', which i'd rather bypass, for obvious reasons.
Perhaps, as you seem to suggest, I can upgrade to the 'WEB Bolt-on' for £7. - this sounds do-able, and would mean i would pay £27/month for unlimited iphone access, and still retain my 600mins/500txts.
Bottom line is.. - i would like to be able to use my mobile for decent web access, and once i have the link, i can 'hi-jack' my iphone so i can use my laptop (macbook) as a browser via my £20/mnth iphone.
Sorry this sounds complicated, but i'm sure you know what i mean.
j

You're not going to have much fun with WAP on an iPhone. As far as i know, Safari doesn't support it, and it will take forever to load full webpages.

lasvegaschris

storminbalder wrote: »

There are two types of people that knock the iPhone.

Either;

1. Those that have never seen/played with one.

2. Those that are green with envy as they cannot afford one.

I am not an Apple Freak, and have always avoided Apple in the past, but I cannot believe anyone (without some ulterior motive) can seriously doubt the wonderfulness of this gadget. 30 million people (and counting) cannot surely be wrong!

So true, lol.

Yes from a moneysaving point of view, there are many 'cheaper' alternatives. But to have cutting edge technology like this, sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and cough up.

There is no other phone that even comes close to some of the capabilities that the iPhone has.

And all these people who say "I just want a phone, I'm not bothered with these silly gadgets" - how many of them have "just a phone" and do not use the other applications on their phones?

Bim

Will the 3G iphone 8GB on pay-as-you go also go down from £350 in May...Im just about to buy one?

asininity

Marty_J wrote: »

The first iPhone was, well, it was the first iPhone. Pretty good for any company's first phone if you ask me.

To be honest they came to the market late and a lot of the features they lacked had been around for a long time so there was no excuse

The iPhone does loads though. It has over 25,000 applications in the app store and a community of 50,000 developers, which is good going considering it hasn't even been out for 2 years.

I'm not arguing that they've done well, you make that amount of money on a product you have to keep developing it.

I don't get it at all when people say it doesn't do much, or it's a gimmick. I also don't understand why people are distrustful of Apple or belittle their products just because they look really nice, are really simple to use, or are good at marketing.

If we followed that logic, the best products would be ugly, hard to use, and practically unknown.

Regardless, here's an interesting article I was reading earlier.

Theres basic features that it still doesn't do that other less expensive phone do (the first one did even less than some phone years older) even now, which is why its big news about the update.

Dont put words in my mouth I'm not distrustful of them or belittling themI'm thankful they've improved the market, I'm simply putting my POV across as things stand now. My current phone is not ugly or hard to use. I personally dont like how big the iphone is and still unconvinced about touch screens.

And while I agree that software stands to be the biggest differentiating factor in the market now I dont agree apple are pulling away from the market as the article suggests. Nokia aren't standing still (thats why they're opensourcing, in an effort to compete with apple) and neither is google, being purely software as it is and arguably a better platform, plus hardware is still important.

Marty_J

I didn't mean to put words in your mouth; my comment was a general one.

Of course hardware is still important, and I doubt you'd get any argument from Apple on that point. It's looking like Apple have got the scoop on multicore processing for mobile devices, thanks to their exclusive deal with Information Technologies and their acquisition of P.A. Semi.

asininity

We should all look forward to a better hardware and computing power in the market then as the others wont stand still, time will tell. Whatever apple does if it impacts the market like it has to date all consumers will benefit because whatever phone they go for it will be better for the competition.

I wonder whats next for google and nokia, it might seem like nokias playing catch up but I doubt it and google is never a force to ignore, M$ know that.

Marty_J

An interesting note about Android: they didn't implement multi-touch as Apple asked them not to.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-267771.html

Google make lots of stuff for the iPhone, and their CEO is on Apple's board of directors, so I'm not sure how much of a rush they'll be in to compete with one another.

wrack

curriej99 wrote: »

hi jim - yes, i think the difference is whether free WAP bolt-on is the same thing as free WEB bolt-on. If it is, then I'm quids in. If not, then perhaps I need to supplement my £20 with a further amount (you reckon £7 more but other sources tell me it's £20).
My asking O2 customer services only results in them telling me 'You have to upgrade to a £35/month tariff', which i'd rather bypass, for obvious reasons.
Perhaps, as you seem to suggest, I can upgrade to the 'WEB Bolt-on' for £7. - this sounds do-able, and would mean i would pay £27/month for unlimited iphone access, and still retain my 600mins/500txts.
Bottom line is.. - i would like to be able to use my mobile for decent web access, and once i have the link, i can 'hi-jack' my iphone so i can use my laptop (macbook) as a browser via my £20/mnth iphone.
Sorry this sounds complicated, but i'm sure you know what i mean.
j

Yup sorry, Web Bolt On is what i meant,im aware you are on a contract but depending if you are payg or contract all you need to do is put in the correct vpn settings on the iphone,don't be expecting fast web access(like wifi) unless you are in an "Edge" area,on saying that,if i access the web using gprs its about the same speed as dial up,which is not too bad if its an urgent thing i need to do,a point to note though is,what i was trying to explain in my previous post,if at present you do not get charged for accessing the web on your mobile then you do not have to have a web bolt on just set the correct vpn settings in the iphone,i don't have the bolt on but i can access the net for a complete day and it will only cost me up to £1,another example,when i was with vodafone on a payg sim i could also access the web just like you can with any other mobile,you could also pull up to mc's,bk's or a bookies etc and connect to their wifi,yes i understand what you mean with regards to using your iphone's wifi to connect your laptop.;)

Jim