Wages for immigrants.

bendix

worried_jim wrote: »

I really hope that this thread is a joke.

Sadly it's not. dervish is obsessed with the subject. He is our own little BNP wannabe.

I worked in Thailand for the last 4-5 years at a salary roughly 80 times the national average. I'm glad other countries don't buy into the same racist and ill-thought through logic as our dervish.

Sadly, this forum isn't moderated. If it was, he would have been banned weeks ago.

mr.broderick

dervish wrote: »

It seems rather unfair that any foreigner or immigrant can just waltz into this country and get a similar wage to someone who has lived and worked here all their life.

Foreigners who work in this country or immigrant workers should have to have a probationary period BEFORE they can earn full wages - I support the view that they should have their own wage and pay structure which is BELOW the standard minimum wage.

ie Froeigners minimum wage could be about £3 an hour. Also they should NOT be entitled to receive and benefits or NHS cover (emergency excepted) until their probabtionary period has elapsed.

This ideas would make perfect sense in the current recession as massive amounts of money would be saved and it would deter economic immigrants from coming here in the first place. BRITAIN IS FULL !!!

It woukd also incentivise British workers as they would be getting more money than their immigrant counterparts and consequently there would be less resentment and hatred towards the foreigners.

we need some politicians to have the bravery to make this happen as it would have the full support of the majority of people,

My mother-in-law is maltese, my wife is half maltese.
Mother in law has worked all her life since coming here when she was 20, proper hard worker and never moans.

pickles110564

mr.broderick wrote: »

My mother-in-law is maltese, my wife is half maltese.

My favourite sweets.

pickles110564

dervish wrote: »

It seems rather unfair that any foreigner or immigrant can just waltz into this country and get a similar wage to someone who has lived and worked here all their life.

Foreigners who work in this country or immigrant workers should have to have a probationary period BEFORE they can earn full wages - I support the view that they should have their own wage and pay structure which is BELOW the standard minimum wage.

ie Froeigners minimum wage could be about £3 an hour. Also they should NOT be entitled to receive and benefits or NHS cover (emergency excepted) until their probabtionary period has elapsed.

This ideas would make perfect sense in the current recession as massive amounts of money would be saved and it would deter economic immigrants from coming here in the first place. BRITAIN IS FULL !!!

It woukd also incentivise British workers as they would be getting more money than their immigrant counterparts and consequently there would be less resentment and hatred towards the foreigners.

we need some politicians to have the bravery to make this happen as it would have the full support of the majority of people,

I say to you once again, you are bonkers, one flew or the cuckoo's nest and a racist to boot.
Dervish when we get our way the country wont be full it will have the space for one more.

lostinrates

pickles110564 wrote: »

My favourite sweets.

See, I was wondering whether to run with a dog gag.

bendix

I'm just in the middle of reading Niall Ferguson's book 'Empire'. In it he points out that in the 200 hundred years during which Britain built its empire around the world, more than 20,000,000 people left Britain to begin new lives overseas.

I quote: "For most of these emigrants, [leaving their homeland] spelt liberty - religious freedom in most cases , but above all economic freedom."

To most of the receiving countries and their indiginous population, the new arrivals from England were known as the white plague.

How ironic, then, that little Englanders like dervish see history in such one dimensional terms.

MrMuttley

<---- Another foriegn worker here. This time from Canada and a British citizen due to family connections.

Where are you going to draw the line on "foriegn" Born overseas? Born overseas but now a British citizen? First generation? Second generation?

Go far enough back and just about everone is descended from immigrants even you Dervish no matter how white and anglo-saxon you think you are.

It's always the thing that makes me chuckle when people starts complaining about immigrants for whatever reason.

ozzage

MrMuttley wrote: »

white and anglo-saxon

Let's not forget, both angles and the saxons came from what is now Germany!

Generali

kiwifruit wrote: »

Why when people post on threads like this, they do so without getting facts straight...As an immigrant to this country, I DID have to prove I had enough funds to support myself, I DID have to prove I had a bank account and funds back home if required. I have NEVER received one penny from the UK government in benefits or handouts, or housing etc. I PAY taxes as required. It is NOT easy, as some would lead others to beleive, to be admitted into the UK, reside, work and then settle. There is a long, expensive process that has to be got through. Im from an English speaking, Commonwealth country (NZ) and it was no different for me as it was for a relatives partner from Turkey, to go through the process. I have been here over 7 years now and I still feel guilty for living a life over here. Threads like this, that bring out the bitter and twisted posts like the OP has posted, dont help any.

Mrs Generali is from Aus and also had to sign to receive no state assistance for (I think) 2 years.

Now I have moved to Aus and I also had to sign something similar.

There is nothing wrong with immigration - the UK isn't full of red-headed, blue eyed people making stuff out of Bronze. Nor is Australia full of people with dark skin who throw sticks at lizards.

Migration and trade help societies form and reform over time, IMO. Societies die off and others rise in their place.

Conrad

Dervish, the UK is built on wealth gathered from foreign land over centuries. I guess what comes around goes around.