Depression Support Thread

Tiff_2

Hi ab!
I'm sincerely hoping you're well, ab. Sorry you didn't find any smarties - they're a protected species here.
Have some on me though...

Quick - I can hear katie-tulip running as I type!

ab wrote:

Saying 'I suffer with depression' is not really supportive is it. getting a few virtual hugs from someone you have never met isnt really supportive either.

ab wrote:

Support comes from discussion and helpful hints and tips just the same as on other areas of the site. There is no need to discuss dosages of medication but experiences and education plus any new discoveries is supportive.

If the mods are insistent about the nature of the thread the word "support" should be dropped

Just my humble opinion hunnie, but regarding your opening paragraph...

- Yes, it can be.

and

- Yes, it can be.

Each to their own.

And regarding your second paragraph...
I think the word ''support'' is quite appropriate. When you start using the words that you used to refer to or maybe define this thread, specifically experiences, I feel that could lead us down the road then of possibly scaring some people from getting the support they need because of reading negative experiences of others, which may or may not be in the minority.

As I've said many times, what works for one person, may not work for another and the treatment of a mental illness needs to stay with the professionals. I am very open-minded and happy for anything that works for someone.:T I think the educating can be done quite easily by someone themselves off-thread and of their own choice, without any risk of comeback to the thread or forum and preferably via established professional sources.
It's not about what does or doesn't work - it's about what can legally, and some might say morally, be allowed on the thread as far as discussing experiences of mental ill health treatment.
And I wouldn't like to be responsible for anyone who is feeling very, very poorly, reading my posts and then ending up possibly slightly dead due to testing out my well-intentioned theories, in how they have understood them. Yes that's a very extreme example, but the risk of it happening even once isn't worth it.

Safe journeys, hun and take care.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Tiff_2

Hi peebody!
Rats - lol x

Much Love,
Tiff xxx

Tiff_2

Hi guys!
This is so sad.
Okay, I'm coming in with my two cents worth! It's starting to feel like The Twilight Zone in here. Firstly, I mean it sincerely when I say that I don't want anyone to leave and I'm honestly not being malicious either. I started this new thread after reading MSE Andrea's post and it's still the same thread, given a fresh start. I did not start it to see old issues dragged up yet again or to use the thread as a platform to change the rules or to promote any particular treatment.

I'd said I'd post today in answer to errata's question, but to be honest, I think glad has already explained it very well here...

glad wrote:

Hi

glad wrote:

I know this thread is very restrictive but this site is a moneysaving site, privately owned, and Martin has to protect himself and the site.

You are right this thread, just for chat and support, should be in the Arms section,
it was originally started in the Arms but it attracted unwanted attention being in such a busy, boisterous place, I moved it to the Health board for some breathing space and here it has stayed for over two years.

Various users have questioned the restrictions but they are there for good reasons, there are many other more suitable sites for specific advice, however on this site the thread is just somewhere to chat with people who may be feeling the same as yourself, somewhere you may find a friend if you're having problems in the outside world,
please don't leave
Glad

I think that the chatting is just what we have been doing all along and it has been supportive and informative, imho. Our posts have supported each other through crises and have reassured and guided new people towards the resources in the mental health system. Many are unaware of what help is out there and sometimes need friendly support and reassurance to access it.

I think that what's happening comes down to some people wanting to open the arena up more than it has been in the past. Unfortunately, this doesn't fit the forums' guidelines. That doesn't mean this thread's changed drastically at all and we should post just the same as we have been, prior to any rules debates.

Yes, people have probably discussed other things that we can't here, on other threads or boards, but that doesn't make it right or safe for us to do it here. That issue should be taken up on the boards it occurs on. I'd like to say that, of course, everyone is entitled to an opinion regarding the rules, but maybe they should express it on the delegated appropriate place as mentioned here...

glad wrote:

Martin has set up a whole board for discussion of MSE policies HERE

glad wrote:

this thread is not the place so further off topic posts will be removed/reported

The arguing or debating over the rules, is stopping the thread from moving on, imho, which isn't fair to others who want to post, but who may not feel at ease with the current situation. The thread has survived very well for two and a half years and neither the thread nor the hard work of all the posters who have contributed to the thread in this time, deserve to be undermined or disrespected like this.

For those who want to change, or who are unhappy with the rules - which are there to protect everyone and do work, imho - or who don't like the feel of the thread, I respect that. So please feel free to also start a new separate thread, where you can post your own views, thoughts and have your discussions, without disrupting this thread any further. This way your views will be aired and discussed , as you wish them to be, on this other thread and they will be judged on their own merits. This seems the fairest thing to do for all concerned, imho. And everyone should be happy then, because we'll all be getting what we want, won't we?

And this thread can return to doing what it says on the label - supporting each other through mental ill health.
Much Love,
Tiff xxx

maytaurus

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you

Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how popular it remains?

The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

Experience is something you don’t get until just after you need it.

To succeed in politics, it is often necessary to rise above your principles.

If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments

Love may be blind but marriage is a real eye-opener.

I feel like I’m diagonally parked in a parallel universe.:eek:

Edinburghlass_2

You know its very difficult to draw a line when posting without it breaking up but I do think everyone should try, this is my go.

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See, its not perfect and neither is MSE but we do try

absolutebounder

razorbladekisses wrote: »

I've just read a thread on thyroid problems (same board), from the very first page medication is mentioned, doses e.t.c and how the condition affects people. It seems that there are in fact different rules depending on the subject matter. I've no problem with the no medication rule but at leas adhere to it on all threads and not just single out 'mental health'

This is spot on. Its not the fact that medical things cant be discussed it is the inconsistency of the moderation. As I write there is a thread about paul McKennas methods making you thin by engineering of the mind.
As a constructive recommendation could I suggest that the thread carries a disclaimer in tyhe same way the mortgages and endowments thread does

shazrobo

hi all, hope everyone is as well as can be.
good luck wih the move anni, how exciting :j

had a reasonable day, nothing exciting, but kids been good, which is quite an acheivement, watched a dvd, played loads of games etc to keep them amused.
the only bad thing to spoil the day, was a grown man, shouting at me in the garage, i had filled my car with petrol and he wanted me to drive away, so he could use the pump, but i had to pay first, and he couldnt understand that, and was very rude. managed to stay calm , and paid, then drove off, was shaking all the way home, and burst into tears, have calmed down now tho
hugs all
shaz xxx

beachbeth

:grouphug: Hugs to you, Shaz. I know exactly how you feel and I would have reacted in the same way. Stupid man - you can't fill up if someone hasn't yet paid for their petrol!

I have been feeling upset and low recently because of the death of a beloved dog and last Thursday my Sainsbury's shopping delivery was late. When the delivery man turned up he was very sullen, didn't apologise and just thrust the delivery note in my hand. He got all the shopping out of the van and I didn't think he was going to give me my £10 voucher (you get this if they are late). I was prepared to ask him for it but he just said "Have you had a voucher before?" and then gave it me. His whole attitude was awful and, although I wasn't tearful, it made me feel worse than I already did. Im surprised at Sainsburys - the delivery people are usually much nicer.

Its amazing how the actions of one stupid and ignorant person can spoil your day.

mezer3000

awww shazrobo! I know what that can be like - you hold it together for the moment and then it all falls apart afterwards - but well done for holding on in front of him!

lm - hope your move all goes ok

i had work today - so I was actually out of the house. My manager was in and I had my end of year review - he was really positive even though I had a really bad year, so feel a lot better about work now.

BF took me out for a meal at wagamamas - i hadn't been there before, but it was absolutely gorgeous - would definitely recommend.

spoke to my mum and dad on the phone tonight, dad is back from italy for just a day, so it was nice to speak to him.

gonna chill out in the bath in a bit

hope everyone has a nice evening

lovies bry x

mezer3000

Beachbeth - at least you got your voucher hehe

asda turned up 4 hours late once, very grumpy driver, and half our order was missing - and we didnt get anything in compensation - just a refund for the stuff they didn't deliver

try and brush his grumpyness off - i know thats not easy - normally takes a few days with me hehe but im just stubborn!