MONEY MORAL DILEMMA: Would you ask for your tip back?

jodiewright

Of course I would ask for it back. I work extremetly hard for my money and cannot afford to give it away due to feeling uneasy about asking for it back!

Katie-Kat-Kins

bardenny wrote: »

Yes I would certainly ask for it back, as I would feel like I've been conned and that really makes me angry!:mad:

Who conned you? You keyed in the wrong number?? It is your mistake, are you prepared to penalise the waiter for your own error??

Personally I would probably chalk it up to experience, and be cross with myself for making the mistake, but having worked as a waitress as a teenager I know how much an unexpected tip can mean so I'd know that the waiter was feeling good about my silly error!

yace

Please understand: once you've made the payment, then the transaction's gone through. The waiter WILL be charged tax, NI, and admin fees on that tip, even if you then take it back.

If you accidentally enter your PIN as a tip, then of course you're gonna ask for it back, despite the fact the waiter will still have to pay up to a third of your mistake. If you add another tenner to an already high bill - I say deal with it. If you really couldn't afford it, you wouldn't be eating out.

Don't forget, you always get a chance to confirm the amount entered. You enter it, click ok, and then confirm the amount again. The mistakes are normally made by people who've had too much wine (read: can afford to buy a lot of wine).

Regarding tipping: remember the person serving you is almost certainly poorer than you, and paid the same measly wage regardless of how hard they work for you. If they work hard and wait on you hand and foot, the excuse 'I'm poor and they get paid anyway' is just selfish. If they give rubbish service, fine, please don't tip. The tip should be directly proportional to how well the waiter worked, and looked after you.
But in my experience it's the customers with the most demands who don't tip, even when these demands are met and exceeded.

Staff in the catering industry almost always have no voice, mistreated by management and customers alike: underpaid, no breaks, 60-hour weeks.
One thoughtless person above said if they're not happy with the wage they should get a better paid job. I can't express how angry the self-centred comment makes me. Do you really think waiters are all stupid layabouts, too lazy to try and find a better job? That serving you is somehow enjoyable, not at all degrading, for these people, often highly skilled but unemployed because of competitiveness of their field, or more commonly their nationality? That they all hang around, waiting for naive customer to milk for tips?
Please.

jz5ccn

...I'd definitely ask for the money back.

But Normally I would never get into the situation.
If paying by credit card pay for the meal exactly as billed.
Pay any tips in cash and loose change. That way its more likely to go where its supposed to go; the staff. And you get rid of all your loose change !

JZ

Pumpkin_Seed

Yes I certainly would ask for my money back. Sorry to be a meanie but I just do not agree with tipping at all unless someone has gone out of their way & done something specifically above their duty for you. In this time of few jobs about, people are lucky to have jobs & a minimum guaranteed wage. Why then should we feel obliged to give them a lump sum over & above what is on the bill? Do we tip nurses, roadsweepers, ambulance men, or suchlike who sometimes have a particularly nasty job to do?
Hairdressers, taxidrivers & waitresses seem to think it is their right to expect extra in tips. If we all pay them 10% of each bill just for carrying a plate to the table, then they will at the end of the week, earn a very tidy sum on top of their wages!
It is a very grey area & very out of date & somewhat embarrassing. It is like the rich people throwing leftovers to the slaves/peasants as in olden days & how tips started. This is now completely out of date & we should ban tipping altogether unless it is a very special case!

butler_helen

yace wrote: »

Please understand: once you've made the payment, then the transaction's gone through. The waiter WILL be charged tax, NI, and admin fees on that tip, even if you then take it back.

I made this mistake- I was refunded from the managers 'account' - he is most definitely earning more than me and has the discretion to sort the problem out.

For the honesty of the waiter for pointing it out, I gave an extra large tip (20%), as he definitely didn't have to!

gunsandbanjos

Gingernutmeg wrote: »

Having been a waitress myself, it annoys me when people say they're waiters/waitresses and they don't share tips. I've never worked anywhere where we all kept our own tips and I think that's awful - why shouldn't the kitchen staff get a share? I don't agree at all with managers keeping tips or with tips being used to make wages up to the minimum (that's totally wrong and there are some restaurants I no longer use because I know they do that) but I think it's wrong not to share tips with the whole kitchen.

Where i work the kitchen get a share of our 'service charges' but not our tips, this is because they get paid more than us to make up for the fact they dont get tips.

galaxylisa

Yes I would ask for the tip to be ammeneded, saying that if I had enough money to spend THAT ammount on a meal for two, then I would probably have enough money to not worry about the error.

shzbaby

I am a waitress, and dont expect to get tipped all the time. I am lucky in some respects in that I work in a restaurant where any tips (we dont service charge) come straight to whoever served that particular table (not in a pot, which seems to be the norm (unfair when not everyone works as hard as each other, there are some proper lazy people in this industry!!)), and also that any tips put through on card come through in my paycheck (although, as deemed as income, Mr Taxman gets a nice slice too!!). I can usually tell if someone has overtipped, and I always mention it to them just to make sure. After all, i wouldn't like it if i had overtipped and the server didnt mention it to me. You'd think as a waitress i'd be tipping here, there and everywhere; if anything it has made me more critical of service elsewhere, and therefore only tip when i think service/food/whatever has been good. I'd expect the same of myself, therefore its motivation to always try and give good service.

Sarah147

I never put a tip on a card payment to a restaurant as then the tip goes to the restaurant owner, I always pay the bill amount on a card and then put some coins in the tray as a tip. That way the tip goes to the server who you intended it to go to. Hopefully anyway!