RSPCA in Scotland - I didn't know this.

Hintza

aliasojo wrote: »

Hintza....nooooooooo.

We've done that bit AND got the posts deleted. :rotfl:

Ops.....lol. late to the party as usual..:o

suki1964

The RSPCA DOESNT operate here in NI - USPCA. Yet once again RSPCA campaign here:(

I wouldnt even give the RSPCA a glance let alone a penny.I give to local animal charities only

LittleTinker

I can see what the problem is.....although having done a little research into it I can see how the problem has manifested.

It isnt a deliberate thing, as some seem to think. The RSPCA buy advertising blocks....but havent a say in where they are shown. So it isnt as though the RSPCA are deliberately 'pulling a fast one'.

The same is for newspaper advertising as well.

I do agree, however, that the wording in the adverts saying that it is an England and Wales only charity, is too small and too brief....and should remain at the bottom of the advert in bigger lettering.

Its not the RSPCA's fault.....although I suppose they could refrain from any form of advertising at all as so to avoid any confusion.

They DO spend a lot on campaigns.....so do the NSPCC.....but I suppose that is how they generate so many funds.

I dont understand what good it does, though, for a charity to say 'we have a bank balance of x million'........it doesnt do any good in the bank, does it!!!??

scheming_gypsy

the majority of the RSPCA's money goes to the 'company' side of it and the charity side / local offices see very little of it.
They're pretty much a bunch of con artists with a charity front to make people donate to them.

sleepymy

SnowyOwl wrote: »

For the sake of clarify the USPCA operates in NI - www.uspca.co.uk. They are nothing to do with the RSPCA, not a branch of the RSPCA, not an affiliate - no relationship, not the same.

As for Royal Ulster Constabulary - well, yes, they were a local police force until they disbanded and the new PSNI was created.

Of course you're right, I don't know why I typed RSPCA when I was thinking of the RSPB. The point of the post was not about the organisations but about how the 'Royal' is not only used for Charities who don't operate outside England. I'll go back and amend my post accordingly.

As for your second point I'm unsure why you feel the need to highlight the word disbanded other than to be pedantic. I had already put at the bottom of the original post that the point wasn't important any more because the misunderstanding by another poster had been sorted out. It also only serves to take the subject off topic again, which has also been addressed previously in the thread.

I don't give money to any charity which will use it to euthanase (sp) healthy animals, which unfortunately both the RSPCA & USPCA do.

SnowyOwl_2

sleepymy wrote: »

As for your second point I'm unsure why you feel the need to highlight the word disbanded other than to be pedantic. I had already put at the bottom of the original post that the point wasn't important any more because the misunderstanding by another poster had been sorted out. It also only serves to take the subject off topic again, which has also been addressed previously in the thread.

You raised it in the first place - as it's off topic stop going on about it then.

Nomad25

It isnt a deliberate thing, as some seem to think.

Well then, they should get it sorted.

Advertisers can pick regions for their ads to appear [tv + paper] you know, and as for mailings, any pc can be programmed to sort addresses into postcodes. I don't think they give a toss - it's underhanded, but gets them more money.

My aunt [deceased] was quite poor, but always gave to them several times a year, if she knew it only went to English + Welsh furries in need, she'd be turning in her grave.

zappster1966

There's a similar thing with the NSPCC and RSSPCC ... except in reverse. In this case the "Royal" charity operates in Scotland whereas the "National" charity doesn't.

Confused ??

I remember my R.E. teacher at school, in one of her (many) Miss Jean Brodie moments, expressing outrage that the English think more of their animals than of their children ... because it's the animal charity which has the Royal seal of approval.

sheerpeaches

The Scottish SPCA has challenged the RSPCA to stop stealing food from the mouths of Scotland’s defenceless animals and tell the truth to the Scottish public.
Scotland’s animal welfare charity has launched an unprecedented campaign calling for the English and Welsh charity to admit it can’t save a single animal in Scotland.
Chief Executive Stuart Earley said, “Many people do not know that the RSPCA does not rescue or rehome any animals in Scotland and by advertising here it has been intentionally adding to the confusion to make money.
“The RSPCA is in breach of Institute of Fundraising guidelines it helped draw up which require charities to be explicitly clear about where they work. Occasionally using small print to tell the Scottish public it is registered in England and Wales is in no way explicit.
“We are a completely separate charity and have asked the RSPCA to make it clear it does not save animals in Scotland so people can make an informed choice about who to donate to. However, after six months of talks we are no further forward.
“This has been increasing the huge pressure on our resources for many years and enough is enough. It’s time the RSPCA told the truth.”
Research has demonstrated that 70% of the Scottish public believe the RSPCA saves animals in Scotland. High profile RSPCA campaigns in Scotland last year included a membership drive in Scottish supermarkets and adverts on Scottish radio stations.
“The RSPCA seems determined to portray itself as a UK charity, even if it is at the expense of animal welfare in Scotland,” said Mr Earley.
“Further RSPCA advertising has included television adverts on UK channels. While these particular adverts cannot be restricted to England and Wales, they should not deceive the Scottish public.
“We are therefore calling for the RSPCA to be explicitly clear in its advertising that it does not rescue or rehome animals in Scotland.
“This could be by explicitly stating where it works or even describing itself as the ‘RSPCA for England and Wales’. Either would clear up the confusion almost immediately.
“We are also calling for the RSPCA to at all times make it clear to anyone donating from Scotland that their donation will not help animals in their country.
“This should extend to any legacies it receives made out to the ‘Scottish RSPCA’ or ‘RSPCA Scotland’. We believe these should come to us and be used to care for animals in Scotland but even this basic and fair principle has been rejected.
“It is impossible to quantify how much we have lost to the RSPCA but any loss is damaging because we receive no government or lottery funding and rely on public support.
“While anyone can of course support any charity they wish, we know the majority of the Scottish public would prefer their donations to help charities in Scotland and it is on this basis, in defence of the abandoned and neglected animals in need of our help, that we are taking this stance.
“We did not want to have to campaign in this way and very much hope this brings about a change in RSPCA policy.”
Mr Earley continued, “People will ask why we don’t merge. The answers are simple, the most significant of which is the Scottish SPCA is subject to Scottish law and, like the police in Scotland, is a reporting agency to the Crown Office, a status far greater than that afforded to the RSPCA.
“Animal welfare is also a devolved issue in Scotland and the Scottish SPCA is in effect a legally recognised defender of animal welfare on behalf of the Scottish Government, which again is a status the RSPCA does not have in England and Wales.
“Indeed, we are extremely proud of our influential role in the development of the Animal Health and Welfare (Scotland) Act of 2006 and subsequent legislation, which is a reflection of the excellent reputation the Scottish SPCA has with MSPs.
“The Scottish public have their own animal welfare charity in the Scottish SPCA and it is essential they are aware of this fact.”

aliasojo

I've tried to avoid that picture. Its' too emotive and it's quite upsetting to see. I know it helps hammers home the point though.

My youngest (age 9) saw it and is already making plans to donate some of her pocket money every week, bless her.