RSPCA in Scotland - I didn't know this.

ceebeeby

Back on thread - no I didn't know that! Is it the same for the RSPB or is that national!

I must say, one of the things that annoys me immensely is Great Ormond Street Hospital who put donation bags etc. through the doors and advertise on TV for donations, when we've 3 children's hospitals of our own to support, never mind the dozen or so between here and London! Is that the reason they've got so much money to do such a large donations advertising campaign, must be costing them a fortune.

sleepymy

LittleTinker wrote: »

Oh for goodness sake, grow up.

Why on earth do you feel the need to snip and snipe at every single thing i have to say?

Its like being back in a playground, it really is. :rolleyes:

Perhaps you should ask yourself why you seem to be in the middle of it so often

The [STRIKE]RSPCA[/STRIKE] RSPB operate in NI, as do the Royal Irish Regiment and, up until their name change, the Royal Ulster Constabulary and lots of 'Royal' (named) organizations so your post about the Queen makes no sense whatsoever.

I think if money is collected in a country then it should also be distributed in that country, I know of a 'human' charity which did this in NI. They took the money raised by the NI office and distributed it on the mainland but not in NI, bit of a disgrace IMHO.

ETA: there were a few posts added between me typing this and pressing send, glad to see it's been sorted out.

aliasojo

Ok guys just so's you know...I'm going to ask a BG or abuse to delete any off topic or 'fighty' type posts or comments.

Dont get me wrong....I usually dont have a problem with people pulling each other about stuff but I do think this just isn't the right thread for it so I'm gonna try to bannish you.

Hope you dont take the huff, lol.

aliasojo

Off topic post deleted.

Savvy_Sue

aliasojo wrote: »

Ok guys just so's you know...I'm going to ask a BG or abuse to delete any off topic or 'fighty' type posts or comments.

Dont get me wrong....I usually dont have a problem with people pulling each other about stuff but I do think this just isn't the right thread for it so I'm gonna try to bannish you.

Hope you dont take the huff, lol.

At the risk of having you all jump down my throat, I've done as aliasojo asked BUT I will also ask the Forum Team to take a look and they may in their wisdom reinstate a few posts. I CANNOT edit posts, so if anyone wants to edit their own post to remove quotes from a deleted post, feel free.

Now

GOING OFF-TOPIC

Hi, Martin’s asked me to post this in these circumstances: While it’s easy to wander off-topic that often prevents newbies finding the information they want quickly and easily (please see this rule). Please keep this thread on topic. If you’d like to discuss non-MoneySaving related topics please continue your discussion in The MoneySavers Arms or Discussion Time. If you have any questions about this policy please email [EMAIL="%20abuse@moneysavingexpert.com"]abuse@moneysavingexpert.com[/EMAIL].

One could argue that this isn't a moneysaving thread in the first place, but clearly there IS a financial aspect here for those of you living north of the border or keen to support animal welfare north of the border.

It is now a requirement of charity law that charities operating in Scotland are registered there, so I'm wondering if it's legal for a charity which is only registered in England and Wales (see how careful I am being here?) to fundraise in Scotland. It probably isn't legal for such a charity to offer services in Scotland, but I will see if one of the board's friendly charity experts wishes to offer an opinion on this.

So, to recap: to discuss the iniquitous inequalities between the various different parts of the UK, head to DT. To continue discussing the situation where an animal welfare charity fundraises but does not work in Scotland, carry on here. Wherever you are, please be nice to everyone. Thank you.

ceebeeby

aliasojo wrote: »

Actually, that's a valid point. I know one little lad from this area was referred there last year as his condition was not easily managed by anyone other than the specialist teams they have there.

But the local health board has to pay GOSH for his treatment!!!!! And this is what makes me :mad: , that there's this misconception by the public that such events happen out of the goodness of their hearts. GOSH is cash rich compared to all other UK childrens hospitals because of their ability / desire to treat private patients, whereas other NHS hospitals are largely restricted from this practice. Compared to a lot of other childrens hospital, GOSH covers probably similar quantities of UK national services as say for example BCH (Birmingham).

(It's set up under service level agreements - you get regional and national services delivered from specialty hospitals (the patients' local health board either pays an annual fee for the service regardless of how many patients it refers, or there's a per patient fee ....). This is why 'post-code health service is so wrong, as you may have one health board willing to pay, and another who isn't.

Arghhh, I've hijacked the thread. Or have I, I now don't know if this is on or off track as it refers to x-border donations? Am happy to be deleted if it's inappropriate.

Sorry OP

Savvy_Sue

ceebeeby wrote: »

Arghhh, I've hijacked the thread. Or have I, I now don't know if this is on or off track as it refers to x-border donations? Am happy to be deleted if it's inappropriate.

:rotfl: I shall leave it alone. For now ... but let's get back to the cute'n'cuddly animals, shall we?

fengirl_2

To address the point in the original post:
Any English charity that wishes to refer to itself as a charity and occupies any land or premises in Scotland or carries out activities in any office, shop or similar premises in Scotland, needs to apply for registration as a charity with OSCR. If the charity meets the Scottish charity test contained in the 2005 Act, it will be entered on the Scottish Charity Register. More information about the Scottish charity test is available on OSCR’s website www.oscr.org.uk. The test requires that the charity’s objects are charitable under section 7 of the 2005 Act and that the charity cannot distribute or apply any of its property for purposes which are not charitable under section 7.
The governing documents of charities established under the law of England & Wales are interpreted according to that law. However, the terms “charitable” or “charitable purposes” do not have precisely the same meaning under the 2005 Act as it does under E&W law.
The E&W charity would need to amend its governing document in order to allow it to operate in Scotland. As the RSPCA was established by various acts of Parliament, I am not sure where that takes us, but presumably the OSCR was happy to register it.
As to donations not being used in Scotland, I can't comment, but I would suggest that amyone who gives to charity has to satisfy themselves that they are giving to a cause they support.
My personal opinion is that the RSPCA is more of a law enforcement agency.

Nomad25

I've yet to see any sign of RSPCA helping in NI [very happy for someone to put me right], but boy do they canvass by mail to NI residents and of course tv ads.

When I contacted them about their 'Home for Life' pet scheme, they advised me it didn't run in NI and then sent me begging letters for money for it. Pah!

Hectors_House

Thanks to the OP for bringing this to my attention.

I've just gone over the the SCPA (http://www.scottishspca.org/) and made a donation.

I had no idea this was the case and as several of my family already donate to the RSPCA I will make my regular donation to the Scottish organisation.