hughs chickens and tesco`s

Phatmouse

Right here is what i'm going to do, find a battery farm and rescue a chicken, let it cluck around my garden for a couple of day then run it over accidently in my car. That way I am a hero, my chicken is free range and it hasn't even been murdered it was a simple accident, best thing is I am then going to sell it to some numpty who is crying out to be middle class, so much so they will part with £15 for a squashed bird.

Thing is all chickens should be free range but due to the population of the country it's not possible, to impliment it would be impossible and would actually send the price of chicken through the roof due to the how unstable the supply would be. And as for organic, there is no such thing, read the packets, not routinley sprayed, means its not organic, just a bit less sprayed than the field next to, but then the wind blows and everything is equal. Even if we stopped spraying now it would be 100 years before the ground could be completley organic.

I buy what I can afford, I'm a good cook so i'm happy with the results, I sleep well at night.

Phatmouse

Beki wrote: »

Thirftmonster - that's exactly my point. we don't need meat to be the main part of the meal, which is how we can make 16 meals out of one chicken. in fact quite a few of our meals are veg-based or fish-based.

to us, animal welfare is more important than having a lot of meat.

I seriously do not mean to sound rude but I just do not get you.

Why bother adding the chicken to the meals in the first place, if animal welfare is that important don't eat the animal, that way its welfare will be much better than if it did get killed and eaten.

I don't want to come accross as though I'm knocking you, you do things your way i will do things mine but saying you care about the chicken then eating it is just fuzzy logic to me, I just do not get it.

geordie_joe

KimYeovil wrote: »

Rubbish! The larger the family the larger the income and the less the cost per head per portion.

That's a good point, not thought of that before.

I understand that two parents with 4 kids would get more benefits than two parents with only two kids, but does the extra they get actually cover the extra costs incurred by the two kids?

KimYeovil wrote: »

It is those with smaller households who find it difficult.

That is VERY true, it used to cost me a fortune in food, until I learned to cook for four and freeze the other three portions.

KimYeovil wrote: »

It can not make anyone feel guilty - anyone who cares about the chickens did not need HFW lecturing to them in the first place.

Exactly! And I suspect that most of the people who watched the program were concerned about the welfare of chickens anyway. He was just preaching to the converted. Anyone who didn't care about where their chicken came from was not going to care enough to watch the programme.

KimYeovil wrote: »

If you didn't give a ... before you shouldn't give a ... now.

Yes but it would be nice to think there were some people who cared a little, but not enough to make any changes, but were persuaded to make some changes by the programme.

Beki

Phatmouse wrote: »

I seriously do not mean to sound rude but I just do not get you.

Why bother adding the chicken to the meals in the first place, if animal welfare is that important don't eat the animal, that way its welfare will be much better than if it did get killed and eaten.

I don't want to come accross as though I'm knocking you, you do things your way i will do things mine but saying you care about the chicken then eating it is just fuzzy logic to me, I just do not get it.

i realise you don't get it. i didn't think you would

grimerking

Originally Posted by KimYeovil
Rubbish! The larger the family the larger the income and the less the cost per head per portion.

I can understand how this is true if you're on benefits. How is that possibly true for large families with one wage earner? OK, you might get a bit more in tax credits, but your rent/mortgage, transport, etc is going to be a lot higher as well. Your argument makes no sense at all.

IMHO the true poor of Britain aren't those that are signing on, they are the people working minimum wage and trying to raise a family. It works out worse to work in Britain, if you're at the bottom of the pile, than if you sign on.

Rottielover

I do not shop at Tesco at all. I have emailed them in the past about their attitude to animal welfare, following publicity from HFW and CIWF and the replies make it obvious they do not care - they repeat the word 'choice' for the customer again and again.

What a reflection on us in this day and age that many people do not think where their food originates from. I am sure there are many who do not even connect the food on their plate to a once living animal, let alone think of the conditions that animal endured whilst alive. Why do people need to eat so much meat these days, you even see people walking round the supermarket eating the cooked chicken they have just picked up and not paid for yet - can't they wait to get home, are they so hungry?

When I do buy chicken it has to be British and at least Free Range, all other meat bought is British too. I think we should support British meat production and use the power of the consumer to make farmers rear animals in better conditions. It may take a while but we will get there. Once farmers have a market for their higher welfare animal produce they will be encouraged to continue.

Patchwork_Quilt

It took me a long time to realise why I should buy free range meat. I don't always buy free range but I always get British, whatever the budget that month.

We have a saying in our house "Never eat cheap meat" so we only buy the very best ham and sausages etc. They have to be British too.

I've found that the best thing to do is buy good meat, stretch it and eat proper veggie meals in between.

Beki

Just thought i'd post this article for anyone who's interested I think it's fab, and demonstrates exactly how MOST people CAN afford to buy free range if they do something similar!

http://www.downsizer.net/Projects/Processing_food/Ten_Quid_for_a_Chicken?/

geordie_joe

Beki wrote: »

Just thought i'd post this article for anyone who's interested I think it's fab, and demonstrates exactly how MOST people CAN afford to buy free range if they do something similar!

http://www.downsizer.net/Projects/Processing_food/Ten_Quid_for_a_Chicken?/

Sorry but I've been through this last year on the green board.

They don't say how many "we" is, is it a couple, or a family of five?

I live on my own and could get ten meals out of that chicken.

What exactly did "they" get?

An unknown quantity of chicken sarnies.

A chicken pie

Some Chicken soup that has a distinct lack of chicken in it

Some stock

You can do that with an intensively reared chicken too.

As other people have pointed out, it's not how many meals you get from the chicken, but how much chicken goes into each meal.

BilberryCharlotte

Rottielover wrote: »

I do not shop at Tesco at all. I have emailed them in the past about their attitude to animal welfare, following publicity from HFW and CIWF and the replies make it obvious they do not care - they repeat the word 'choice' for the customer again and again.

What a reflection on us in this day and age that many people do not think where their food originates from. I am sure there are many who do not even connect the food on their plate to a once living animal, let alone think of the conditions that animal endured whilst alive. Why do people need to eat so much meat these days, you even see people walking round the supermarket eating the cooked chicken they have just picked up and not paid for yet - can't they wait to get home, are they so hungry?

When I do buy chicken it has to be British and at least Free Range, all other meat bought is British too. I think we should support British meat production and use the power of the consumer to make farmers rear animals in better conditions. It may take a while but we will get there. Once farmers have a market for their higher welfare animal produce they will be encouraged to continue.

I won`t be shopping at Tesco any more. I was already extremely disappointed with them after the last programme by HFW, but I was so disgusted with their treatment of Hugh in this latest programme, I just won`t buy anything from them.