Failure and bitterness.

tomstickland

Regarding the title of this thread:
I'm not bitter and I'm not a failure.
However I do believe that house prices will and should fall.
Too much money is !!!!ed away by the government on social engineering projects and to consultants etc.
Gordon Brown has to take his share of blame ("end of boom and bust", "light touch regulation" etc).

exil

Brown is criticised for not regulating the banks - from the same people who gave him
stick for regulating too much!

Isn't a free market the ideal - that's what we've been told for the last 50 years or so...... but if not - who should regulate the banks? You? Me? The government?
The great and good?

Jillinoz

The_White_Horse wrote: »

everything is labours fault, including millions of single mothers - all collecting their free flat and now, a free 190GBP just for getting knocked up.

But not 190 free quid to little slappers who get up the duff. Not for 5 bedroon council houses, when I can only afford a house for 2 kids.


As someone who is about to become a single mother, I find such sweeping generalisations objectionable. Incidentally, I'm volunteering to become a single mother to a baby currently in care, and so saving the state/UK taxpayer many tens of thousands of pounds in expenses over the years.

I will not qualify for a penny in handouts from you or the Government, apart from the statutory child benefit, I own my house outright ( I certainly wasn't born with a silver spoon) and have, for many years, paid a higher rate of tax. I will subsidise myself and my child from my own personal savings so that I can be a stay-at-home mummy and give her full-time, hands-on care that will hopefully go some way to repairing the terrible start she has had in life.

Oh, and let's face it, Barack Obama didn't do so badly being brought up by a single mum, did he?

mewbie_2

exil wrote: »

Bank stuff

It should be simple..

Bailout = Regulation.
No Bailout = No Regulation.

Instead we have fudge, and taxpayers bailing out shareholders and directors. Not fair, not right.

RecoveringAlcoholic

We can't do anything about the government,

I am waiting to join the rioting on the streets.

mower5

exil wrote: »

Brown is criticised for not regulating the banks - from the same people who gave him
stick for regulating too much!

Isn't a free market the ideal - that's what we've been told for the last 50 years or so...... but if not - who should regulate the banks? You? Me? The government?
The great and good?

As one of the neither great or good, I voluteer to do it. I am only mildly corruptable, kind to children and small animals, wouldn't leave bags of cash lying around the place. I would also cut the lawns in nice shaight lines. What more could you want. I always fancied a Bowler hat

lana22

dad-of-4 wrote: »

im sure its nice to live in a world where you can belittle the value of money your very well paid carreer provides.:rolleyes:

tax payers money as well i might add.;)

I earn £21,000 a year before tax. Hardly the most lucrative job in the world, is it? Less than most teachers, nurses, police officers, fire officers, traffic wardens, McDonalds managers, etc etc etc.

I am afraid I don't feel any sense of guilt for taking £21K a year of tax payers money for doing my job, and the responsibilities that the job comes with.

If you believe it to be such a well-paid career that you clearly begrudge paying taxes towards, perhaps I should forward you the details for applying for medicine via UCAS, then you too could pay your own way through 6 years of university, taking endless exams and working ridiculous hours, all for the grand sum of £21,000 a year. Tempting?

exil

I suspect you won't have dad-of-4 beating down your door.....

but to some people everyone in public service, doctor, nurse, policeman, teacher, whatever. is a layabout battening off the taxpayer....

The_White_Horse

SGE1 wrote: »

That's fine, but only if there's a system in place to make sure those on the dole have the right skills to enter the workforce once the 2-3 years are up. There is no point in throwing people back onto the working market place if they don't have the skills and confidence to get a job.

you don't need skill or confidence to clean toilets or sweep streets. you just need to not be a lazy good for nothing scroungers.

i'd rather sit around my council flat, drinking my stella, beating the dog, whilst watching my 46" plasma and playing playstation and smoking than clean toilets. and guess what? a load of bleeding heart liberals lets me.

until liberals realise they are (a) wrong in the past (b) wrong now and (c) wrong in the future, this country will be dragged down by these idiotic do gooders.

in 200 years, there will be 10% working and 90% scrounging. what a joke.

treliac

lana22 wrote: »

I earn £21,000 a year before tax. Hardly the most lucrative job in the world, is it? Less than most teachers, nurses, police officers, fire officers, traffic wardens, McDonalds managers, etc etc etc.

I am afraid I don't feel any sense of guilt for taking £21K a year of tax payers money for doing my job, and the responsibilities that the job comes with.

If you believe it to be such a well-paid career that you clearly begrudge paying taxes towards, perhaps I should forward you the details for applying for medicine via UCAS, then you too could pay your own way through 6 years of university, taking endless exams and working ridiculous hours, all for the grand sum of £21,000 a year. Tempting?

To be fair, though and although poor, that's an early career salary and you won't be expecting it to remain at that level?