Failure and bitterness.

mewbie_2

mizzbiz wrote: »

_pale_ euw not nice.

It's only an @ss gag. Makes a change from n0b gags. And to be honest I am not bothering to get into yet another slanging match about work shy whatevers, and hard working whatevers. I have my point of view and am fed up with sharing it with mindless idiots who have no life experience.

That's not aimed at you btw. It's a general observation.

mizzbiz

mewbie wrote: »

It's only an @ss gag. Makes a change from n0b gags. And to be honest I am not bothering to get into yet another slanging match about work shy whatevers, and hard working whatevers. I have my point of view and am fed up with sharing it with mindless idiots who have no life experience.

That's not aimed at you btw. It's a general observation.

So why post at all? We can't do anything about the government, but we can refrain from posting if neccessary. If you don't lik ethe people here or what they have to say, you're probably in the wrong place. But I liked the gag, not as queasy as you may think. Tell us some kn0b ones though, my repetoire is empty of them.

lana22

treliac wrote: »

I'm glad I live in a generally more civilised part of the world.

But then we get back to discussing the general breakdown in civilised behaviour ......

P.S. How much abuse do you take before you quit or move into a safer area of work? If public behaviour continues to deteriorate, there will be fewer and fewer professionals prepared to put themselves at risk on the frontline.

Unfortunately abuse is part of the job. It shouldn't be, but it is. It tends to be the people who need to be in hospital the least that have the most to shout about.
I once got sworn at in the canteen when I was getting my first sip of water 10 hours in to a shift. Apparently I shouldn't be "swanning around getting myself drinks" when Mr X's relative is waiting in A&E with a chipped big toe nail. Aside from the fact I don't actually work in A&E, it was a little uncalled for.

Don't get me wrong, lots of patients are lovely, funny, grateful, and stoic. What's annoying is when you see a young guy with tummy ache from a dodgy curry kicking off because the old boy sitting quietly and uncomplaining with his advanced cancer gets seen first.

lana22

mewbie wrote: »

It's only an @ss gag. Makes a change from n0b gags. And to be honest I am not bothering to get into yet another slanging match about work shy whatevers, and hard working whatevers. I have my point of view and am fed up with sharing it with mindless idiots who have no life experience.

That's not aimed at you btw. It's a general observation.

I quite liked the @ss gag. I know it's very immature but bums and willies never cease to be amusing no matter how many you deal with on a daily basis. I wonder if ladies of the night experience that phenomenon too?;)

mizzbiz

lana22 wrote: »

Unfortunately abuse is part of the job. It shouldn't be, but it is. It tends to be the people who need to be in hospital the least that have the most to shout about.
I once got sworn at in the canteen when I was getting my first sip of water 10 hours in to a shift. Apparently I shouldn't be "swanning around getting myself drinks" when Mr X's relative is waiting in A&E with a chipped big toe nail. Aside from the fact I don't actually work in A&E, it was a little uncalled for.

Don't get me wrong, lots of patients are lovely, funny, grateful, and stoic. What's annoying is when you see a young guy with tummy ache from a dodgy curry kicking off because the old boy sitting quietly and uncomplaining with his advanced cancer gets seen first.

I know what you mean. I've seen this before and it makes me admire the people that work there. Let's face it, the majority of doctors (not all however) are very, very intelligent indeed or they would not have made it as far as medical school, never mind qualified. To give your life to that when your intellect could get you very very wealthy in a capitalist society is something to be truly admired. I knwo not all do it for purely altruistic reasons, but many of them (you) must do, to cope with the pressure, the ungrateful patients and to really care for those so ill.

mewbie_2

mizzbiz wrote: »

So why post at all? We can't do anything about the government, but we can refrain from posting if neccessary. If you don't lik ethe people here or what they have to say, you're probably in the wrong place.

Good point. Why post at all? Ego, boredom, occasionally a point to make or argue.

Don't like the people? I said I was fed up with discussing stuff with mindless idiots. I did not say I thought the board comprised solely of mindless idiots. Far from it. Some of my best friends are a username on MSE.

treliac

mewbie wrote: »

I have my point of view and am fed up with sharing it with mindless idiots ....

I know. You just force yourself to continue.

wageslave

mewbie wrote: »

I have my point of view and am fed up with sharing it with mindless idiots who have no life experience

Then I'll share mine (whether anyone wants me to or not).
Extreme and misguided posts aren't limited to this board. Yesterday I read a thread on the loans board (it might have been the debtfree thingy, unlike PN I am dreadfully disorganised) where a 19yr old girl had been lent 7k by her father and had decided not to repay it. Virtually every reply applauded her decision and castigated her parent for daring to request the money back. No-one told her she had borrowed the money and should damn well pay it back.
I am grateful those posters have no input in the upbringing of my daughter.
For the record, I am a single parent who was raised on a council estate. Outrage at the level of greed and immorality in all levels of our society isn't limited to the middle classes.

lynzpower

carolt wrote: »

Agree, but that said, having no money and being about to starve would probably do wonders for those lacking 'confidence' to apply. We all lack confidence in certain situations, but when you have to deal with it, you find that actually, you do survive. I've been unemployed and was v shy as a teenager - yet I still coped with going for - and getting - jobs. There's nothing like actually being made to face things that bother one to enable one to get over them and realise they're no big deal after all.

What unemployed people need is a job, even if it's not perfect - so they can get something on their CV's, develop skills in situ, develop that elusive 'confidence', and even if they hate the job, at least learn that and plan towards getting a job they would like.

Sitting on their !!!!!! achieves none of that, and costs the rest of us who do bother to work.

I refer to long-term unemployed here, BTW - not those recently unemployed due to recession etc.

Agree in the main- howeverwhat does happen to those who become long term unemployed ( ie lost job long ago) is that often many of them really dont "survive" and find themselves embroiled in lives of crime, drug addiction and alcohol dependency, or develop mental illness from mild depression- to lack of self esteem - and the longer it goes on, for SOME, thier illness becomes debilitating.

I think this benefits bashing really does have it all wrong.

If someone is reaching 20 years of age and left school at 16 we really do have to ask ourselves as a society why that is. What in our all encompassing state has failed here? Why is that? What do we as individuals contribute to helping that person, in word or in deed?

I was raised by parents who believed that having a good education and never stoping learning is fundamental to success. Not huge flashy mansion success but financailly contributing, emotionally contributing and staying well away from the wrong side of the law. this is the recipe for a fulfilling life, which includes having positive relationships, interesting jobs, and a reason to live. Above all, it gave me great resiliance- not pasing that exam first time, is simply an opportunity to pass it the 2nd time and to not give up on anything you really want.

We have to look at why we have such a chronic underclass in this country. I dont believe its the benefit system alone- although I do believe it is part of it, along witha complicated system in general. I truly believe that the benefits system is SO complicated that it IS a full time job to claim them, and when the system ***s people over that people fear what would happen to stop thier claim, then undertake some sort of temporary work -when this ends they find they cannot claim/ recieve for ages. its also a total nightmare for those who move a lot (eg people in hostel accomodations) This deters people taking on "bit work" something that might give them confidence and skills to find permanent work later on. I support the use of ID cards to monitor and trace every individuals claims to state benefits with the intention that this information does away with the myriad of forms that claimants have to fill out every single time they sign off and on. We will see a lot more temporary & short term work obver the next few years, an people should not be discouraged from taking it .

The underclass is becoming very entrenched in this country and I personally believe that media attention will make some vulnerable people appear very brazen and present as "untouchable" by the DWP ( eg those families we see in the daily mail that wew shout GET A JOB AT) The fact is they are much more vulmerable to state whims than me for example. I wont have my income chopped off due to admin error. Of course it makes some claimants aggressive, many of them,( from first hand experience as a socail worker) are petrified that they can be made destiturte at any time.

I could ramble on and on, but to me the most important thing any of us can do is to promote resiliance in any one you know.

"if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem"

mizzbiz

mewbie wrote: »

Some of my best friends are a username on MSE.

Do you mean Mr Broderick, Islandannie, chucky, pickles? I have to tell you, you're all one person.


(joke)