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chickadee

RichOneday wrote: »

Thats not a bad article for the Runner's World 'one size fits all' approach to advice.

In particular:


Avoid fad diets Weight-reducing plans that have you radically changing your eating habits usually don't work - at least in the long run. Sure, you can lose weight quickly, but most of the time it just comes right back.


But do people listen? Usually not!!!:rolleyes:

I saw an interesting programme on TV last night about weight loss. There were some surprising facts, all proven scientifically. I can't remember all of them, but here goes on a quick resume:

• The body's metabolic rate is boosted during exercise (obvious) but this increase also continues for a period following exercise, so the fat-burning continues after the running finishes! (I think we knew this already on this thread.)
• Eating more dairy products, even fat-free like skimmed milk, results in a reduction in the proportion of fat that is consumed. Apparently, the fat bonds to the calcium in the dairy and is excreted (or something like that);
• People who claim to eat healthily, but are overweight and claim to have a 'slow metabolism' usually just underestimate the amount of food they eat. For example, in the programme, the volunteer recorded that they had eaten foods with about 1,100 calories, but when this was verified by videoing the food, and by other more scientific methods, the actual calorie intake was about 3,000!
• Eating soup makes you feel fuller for longer than if the same food was eaten un-liquidised.
• Protein satisfies hunger for longer than fat or carbohydrates.

There were probably others, but the claims were investigated by a doctor and found to be true.
(Cross-posted with Sammy - Sorry)

sammy115

I missed the one about the dairy.....good job I am eating cottage cheese!

RichOneday_2

sammy115 wrote: »

I saw that and was gonna post a link but I thought you would just think I am obsessed with diets...(I am a bit but only cos I am interested in the whole theory of it)

I originally took up running cos I wanted to lose weight, which didn't happen....because I just ate more! What WAS interesting was that programme last night about 10 things you should know about losing weight. Especially the woman who exercised and ate healthily but couldn't lose weight. Her theory - slow metabolism. Tests showed that she had a normal metabolism but underestimated/recorded the amount of calories she ate by up to 63%!!!!

Also had interesting bits about eating more protein for breakfast and mushing food up into soup....makes you feel fuller for longer apparently..

Sammy,

Ultimately the appetite is there for the purpose of regulating the type and volume of food required to undertake the activities it is being asked to do.

However, the appetite only works to its full capability when the body is being used in the way it was designed to be used - ie being active. It partially switches off or becomes laissez faire about what is being consumed at more slovenly levels of activities because the energy required for such levels of activity can be met come what may.

Running is not the exercise to take up to lose weight, walking is. By taking up running the appetite will go into overdrive to make sure it has got enough of everything until it works out exactly what the new routine is and the appropriate energy requirement.

As mileage goes up the body becomes ever more efficient so very little additional food is required for doing quite high mileages. This isnt a problem though because of how finely tuned the appetite becomes.

The worst scenario of all is when someone takes up running to lose weight with a target weight in mind. Initially, the appetite increases and weight increases. As mileage goes up the appetite calms down and weight gradually falls over a few months. Eventually, target weight is achieved and the 'mission accomplished' mental triggers start kicking in. Exercise levels drop back to pre-running days but with a far more efficient body - therefore weight piles on at a dramatic rate to beyond the starting point.

So running is a pointless exercise for losing weight unless it is seen as a long term enjoyable activity that will form a core exercise for years to come.

becky_rtw

I really struggle with dairy - I love cheese but I cant eat cream or high fat cheese and I dont like milk...which goes some of the way to explaining my B-12 deficiency

Interesting about soup - apparently if you eat it before your main meal you eat less as well

becky_rtw

I only lost weight because I never got more hungry - in fact it appears I eat less calories when running a lot (but much more carbs ), anything over 40 miles a week and I find it hard to get all the food in that I should eat because I have hardly any time left in the evenings as well...

(not complaining though, am currently working out how not to get fat in the few weeks while I'm laid off )

RichOneday_2

becky_rtw wrote: »

I only lost weight because I never got more hungry - in fact it appears I eat less calories when running a lot (but much more carbs ), anything over 40 miles a week and I find it hard to get all the food in that I should eat because I have hardly any time left in the evenings as well...

(not complaining though, am currently working out how not to get fat in the few weeks while I'm laid off )

Ukevas will be pleased when you get fat - his competition will have disappeared!:p

becky_rtw

RichOneday wrote: »

Ukevas will be pleased when you get fat - his competition will have disappeared!:p

Cheeky

(mind you with the progress he's making at the mo, he'll be long gone before I get going again )

sammy115

I just typed loads in answer to richs post but lost it...grrr! my own fault fingers too fast.

Losing weight wasn't the sole motivation for running. I have run on and off for years but never kept it up - but losing weight was a strong reason to take up running properly (I actually love indoor rowing too!)

I actually didn't find my appetite increased a lot in fact it was difficult to eat before I ran and I never felt like eating after a run...what did happen whas that I justified a takeaway by telling myself I had 'earned' the right to it.

I was the classic 'I eat healthily and exercise, why am I not losing weight?' person who obviously overate...that become very apparent to me when I did the cambridge diet (a fad diet!).

I can't do walking........its too slow....I just can't do it..drives me nuts....

becky_rtw

sammy115 wrote: »

I can't do walking........its too slow....I just can't do it..drives me nuts....

HAHAHA you should come out with me when I'm walking round London - I drive Rich mad as he's always losing me :rotfl::rotfl::D:p

sammy115

becky_rtw wrote: »

HAHAHA you should come out with me when I'm walking round London - I drive Rich mad as he's always losing me :rotfl::rotfl::D:p

Yer on...actually I have just realised why I don't like walking...with four kids its more like herding sheep than going out for a walk.....