Digby Jones - Civil service could have half the staff.

leveller2911

Most people on here will know my views on MP'S, so i'm keeping quiet so others get the chance to "rant".........:rolleyes:





Just can't help myself........

They are self promoting,cheating,lying,deceitful,patronising scum...just above pond life and !!!!!!'s............there,i've said it and I make NO apologies....;)

mewbie_2

leveller2911 wrote: »

just above pond life...

I'm going to have to pick you up on pond life. Tadpoles, water boatmen, various larvae, newts - all with a function to play. Some of the rarer types particularly useful in getting major building projects cancelled. Bracketing them with !!!!!!'s not really fair on the Natterjack Toad.

leveller2911

mewbie wrote: »

I'm going to have to pick you up on pond life. Tadpoles, water boatmen, various larvae, newts - all with a function to play. Some of the rarer types particularly useful in getting major building projects cancelled. Bracketing them with !!!!!!'s not really fair on the Natterjack Toad.

Yeah your right Mewbie, I was "in the zone" so to speak and just kept going..lol:rotfl:

Im actually a fan of the humble toad (water boatmen im not so sure about, brutal little bug@ers.

macaque_2

StevieJ wrote: »

Not another 'I work oh so hard but those civil servants are lazy and overpaid' threads :rotfl:

Executive Director for Resourcesm, LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £135K
Deputy Chief Executive (Performance), MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL,£130,000
Head of Economic Development and Sustainability, WORCESTERSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £75,267 - £83,388 per annum
HR Relationship Manager - Adult Social Care, Kingston upon Thames, £60,000
Head of Corporate Information Services, STOCKPORT BOROUGH COUNCIL, £41,083 - £51,668 plus benefits
Head of Property & Procurement STOCKPORT BOROUGH COUNCIL, £46,856 - £57,723 plus benefits
Head of Corporate Information Services STOCKPORT BOROUGH COUNCIL, £41,083 - £51,668 plus benefits
Inclusion Manager Teacher, LEEDS CITY COUNCIL, £39,504 - ££43,607
Assessment and Intervention Team Managers, WEST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL, £41,600 - £44,500 per annum
Therapies Manager - Children’s Services, EAST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL, £38,931 - £42,549
Additional Educational Needs Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF HAVERING, £58,905 to £63,996
Deputy Head of Service, Countywide BEDFORDSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £39,345 - £42,798
Head of Service - Strategic Commissioner for Culture, Health and Wellbeing WIGAN COUNCIL, £56,268 - £61,392
Programme Manager - Personalisation LEICESTERSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £47,772 - £52,719
Children's Services Transport Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF HILLINGDON, £43,013 - £46,702
Deputy Service Manager - Fostering CITY OF WESTMINSTER COUNCIL, £41,721 up to £44,334
Professional Head of Social Work and Social Inclusion BRADFORD DISTRICT CARE TRUST, £41,221 - £53,432
Safeguarding Children Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF EALING, £54,054 - £56,880
Head of Early Years & Children's Centres Service CITY OF YORK COUNCIL, £43,850 - £50,200
2 Senior Quality Officers - Adults Services LONDON BOROUGH OF NEWHAM, £42,813 - £45,459
Operations Manager (Community Safety) LONDON BOROUGH OF REDBRIDGE, £41,076 - £43,695
Biodiversity Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF SUTTON, £38,463 - £41,076 pa
Head of Economic and Urban Policy MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL, £65,000
Assistant Director Commissioning and Transformation - Adult Social Services NORFOLK COUNCIL,£79,000
Assistant Chief Executive, Performance and Delivery BARNSLEY METROPOLITAN BOROUGH COUNCIL, £80k
Director of the Office for Disability Issues DEPARTMENT OF WORK AND PENSIONS, £90K
Manager Services for Children/Young People with a Disability and/or Illness HEREFORDSHIRE COUNCIL,£37,106 - £44,527
Assistant Chief Executive, Performance and Delivery BARNSLEY METROPOLITAN BOROUGH COUNCIL, £80k
Head of Service – Safeguarding and Vulnerable Children HEREFORDSHIRE COUNCIL, £67,599 to £71,299
Head of Policy & Performance, ROYAL BOROUGH WINDSOR & MAIDENHEAD, £62,885 - £73,170
Head of Admissions & Transport EAST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL, £49,338 - £53,916
Head of Economic and Urban Policy MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL, £65,000
Neighbourhood Manager COMMUNITY AT HEART, £38,462 – 41,897 per annum
Joint Commissioners: Mental Health & Learning Disabilities LONDON BOROUGH OF BARNET,£48,252 - £51,078
Joint Commissioners: Older People & Physical Sensory Impairment LONDON BOROUGH OF BARNET,£48,252 - £51,078
Lead Officer for Carers - Strategy & Commissioning LONDON BOROUGH OF BARNET, £48,024 - £51,381
Assistant Director - Planning, Performance and Engagement EAST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL, £68,310
Children’s Workforce Development – Project Officer LEICESTERSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £36,675 - £40,518
London 2012 Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF BRENT, £46,359
Director of Economic Development LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £98k
Training and Development Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF LAMBETH, £39,987
Officer in Charge LONDON BOROUGH OF NEWHAM, £38,463 pa - £41,076 pa (pro-rata)
Head of Adult Disability and Sensory Services LONDON BOROUGH OF NEWHAM, £47,200 - £57,700
Extended Schools Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF SOUTHWARK, £39,114 - £45,219
Service Manager - Quality, Contracts and Safeguarding, KENSINGTON AND CHELSEA, £70,500 incl. avg
Operations Manager - Children's Placement Service LONDON BOROUGH OF EALING, £54,054 - £56,880 pa inclusive
Head of Transformation and Modernisation - Adult Social Care LONDON BOROUGH OF HOUNSLOW, £73,805 to £85,459
Care & Repair and Grants Team Leader LONDON BOROUGH OF HOUNSLOW, £40,194 - £42,813
Health and Safety Manager SURREY COUNTY COUNCIL, £40,002 - £44,757
Strategic Project Manager for Croydon’s Children’s Trust LONDON BOROUGH OF CROYDON, £39,302 - £41,097
Head of Transformation and Modernisation LONDON BOROUGH OF HOUNSLOW, £73,805 to £85,459
Corporate Director of Development and Neighbourhood Services, STOCKTON ON TEES, £128,523
Strategic Director of Neighbourhood Services, MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL, £120,000
Director of Strategic Client Relations,£120k
Executive Director, ROCHDALE METROPOLITAN BOROUGH COUNCIL, £120,000
Executive Director - Finance and Support Services, SOUTH CAMBRIDGESHIRE DISTRICT COUNCIL, Salary £100000

The_White_Horse

at least half of those jobs are non-jobs and 100% of them are well overpaid.

the civil service make me sick. slash their pay. if they don't like it, let them get a job in the real world. they will accept it in the end because most of them know they wouldn't last 5 minutes in a world where they have to make money and be efficient rather than waste money and be as ineffecient and inneffectual as possible.

civil service 50% off all their wages now!!!!!!!

DawnW

lynzpower wrote: »

some of it was unneccesary ( ie logging information twice on 2 different databases due to laws on data sharing)

But I could have worked 24 hours a day 365 and never had enough time to do the work I had to do.

I can identify with this. I worked as a civil servant for about 9 months (junior - middle management, although the actual job title sounded a lot more important than this), and although it was an interesting job, it was really stressful. The more you did, the more was piled on, and there was a real blame culture. After I had been there for about 6 weeks someone left (they often did) and I got her work landed on me as well. I even had to represent the UK at some meeting in Rotterdam of all places over a bank holiday (with no extra pay or holiday). The money was rubbish as well! Nothing like the examples above. I was glad to get back to the so-called 'real' world.

lincroft1710

The White Horse - NONE of the jobs mentioned are Civil Service, they are Local Government. There is a big difference between the two and where the money comes from to fund salaries.

The Beds CC job is precarious, the council will cease to exist this year.

Layla_CK

I am a new civil servant - been working in my dept for the past 10 months.

Myself and my manager and a few others in our team work our socks off.

BUT!! I have never worked in a more money wasting company who seems to reward lazyness - with longevity overuling intelligence, initiative and grade. Agree with the blame culture, cannot believe the way some civil servant behave and their managers know they are horrid lazy oafs - but lets not rock the boat and actually get them working eh?!

The civil service really is something alright!!:rotfl:

Layla_CK

macaque wrote: »

Executive Director for Resourcesm, LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £135K
Deputy Chief Executive (Performance), MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL,£130,000
Head of Economic Development and Sustainability, WORCESTERSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £75,267 - £83,388 per annum
HR Relationship Manager - Adult Social Care, Kingston upon Thames, £60,000
Head of Corporate Information Services, STOCKPORT BOROUGH COUNCIL, £41,083 - £51,668 plus benefits
Head of Property & Procurement STOCKPORT BOROUGH COUNCIL, £46,856 - £57,723 plus benefits
Head of Corporate Information Services STOCKPORT BOROUGH COUNCIL, £41,083 - £51,668 plus benefits
Inclusion Manager Teacher, LEEDS CITY COUNCIL, £39,504 - ££43,607
Assessment and Intervention Team Managers, WEST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL, £41,600 - £44,500 per annum
Therapies Manager - Children’s Services, EAST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL, £38,931 - £42,549
Additional Educational Needs Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF HAVERING, £58,905 to £63,996
Deputy Head of Service, Countywide BEDFORDSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £39,345 - £42,798
Head of Service - Strategic Commissioner for Culture, Health and Wellbeing WIGAN COUNCIL, £56,268 - £61,392
Programme Manager - Personalisation LEICESTERSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £47,772 - £52,719
Children's Services Transport Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF HILLINGDON, £43,013 - £46,702
Deputy Service Manager - Fostering CITY OF WESTMINSTER COUNCIL, £41,721 up to £44,334
Professional Head of Social Work and Social Inclusion BRADFORD DISTRICT CARE TRUST, £41,221 - £53,432
Safeguarding Children Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF EALING, £54,054 - £56,880
Head of Early Years & Children's Centres Service CITY OF YORK COUNCIL, £43,850 - £50,200
2 Senior Quality Officers - Adults Services LONDON BOROUGH OF NEWHAM, £42,813 - £45,459
Operations Manager (Community Safety) LONDON BOROUGH OF REDBRIDGE, £41,076 - £43,695
Biodiversity Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF SUTTON, £38,463 - £41,076 pa
Head of Economic and Urban Policy MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL, £65,000
Assistant Director Commissioning and Transformation - Adult Social Services NORFOLK COUNCIL,£79,000
Assistant Chief Executive, Performance and Delivery BARNSLEY METROPOLITAN BOROUGH COUNCIL, £80k
Director of the Office for Disability Issues DEPARTMENT OF WORK AND PENSIONS, £90K
Manager Services for Children/Young People with a Disability and/or Illness HEREFORDSHIRE COUNCIL,£37,106 - £44,527
Assistant Chief Executive, Performance and Delivery BARNSLEY METROPOLITAN BOROUGH COUNCIL, £80k
Head of Service – Safeguarding and Vulnerable Children HEREFORDSHIRE COUNCIL, £67,599 to £71,299
Head of Policy & Performance, ROYAL BOROUGH WINDSOR & MAIDENHEAD, £62,885 - £73,170
Head of Admissions & Transport EAST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL, £49,338 - £53,916
Head of Economic and Urban Policy MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL, £65,000
Neighbourhood Manager COMMUNITY AT HEART, £38,462 – 41,897 per annum
Joint Commissioners: Mental Health & Learning Disabilities LONDON BOROUGH OF BARNET,£48,252 - £51,078
Joint Commissioners: Older People & Physical Sensory Impairment LONDON BOROUGH OF BARNET,£48,252 - £51,078
Lead Officer for Carers - Strategy & Commissioning LONDON BOROUGH OF BARNET, £48,024 - £51,381
Assistant Director - Planning, Performance and Engagement EAST SUSSEX COUNTY COUNCIL, £68,310
Children’s Workforce Development – Project Officer LEICESTERSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £36,675 - £40,518
London 2012 Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF BRENT, £46,359
Director of Economic Development LANCASHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, £98k
Training and Development Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF LAMBETH, £39,987
Officer in Charge LONDON BOROUGH OF NEWHAM, £38,463 pa - £41,076 pa (pro-rata)
Head of Adult Disability and Sensory Services LONDON BOROUGH OF NEWHAM, £47,200 - £57,700
Extended Schools Manager LONDON BOROUGH OF SOUTHWARK, £39,114 - £45,219
Service Manager - Quality, Contracts and Safeguarding, KENSINGTON AND CHELSEA, £70,500 incl. avg
Operations Manager - Children's Placement Service LONDON BOROUGH OF EALING, £54,054 - £56,880 pa inclusive
Head of Transformation and Modernisation - Adult Social Care LONDON BOROUGH OF HOUNSLOW, £73,805 to £85,459
Care & Repair and Grants Team Leader LONDON BOROUGH OF HOUNSLOW, £40,194 - £42,813
Health and Safety Manager SURREY COUNTY COUNCIL, £40,002 - £44,757
Strategic Project Manager for Croydon’s Children’s Trust LONDON BOROUGH OF CROYDON, £39,302 - £41,097
Head of Transformation and Modernisation LONDON BOROUGH OF HOUNSLOW, £73,805 to £85,459
Corporate Director of Development and Neighbourhood Services, STOCKTON ON TEES, £128,523
Strategic Director of Neighbourhood Services, MANCHESTER CITY COUNCIL, £120,000
Director of Strategic Client Relations,£120k
Executive Director, ROCHDALE METROPOLITAN BOROUGH COUNCIL, £120,000
Executive Director - Finance and Support Services, SOUTH CAMBRIDGESHIRE DISTRICT COUNCIL, Salary £100000

That's nothing - the real money wasted is paying pricate consultants over £1000 a day to tell all depts how to become more efficient - plan this etc etc. Their pay really is a joke!!

lincroft1710

Layla - why get them working when you can dismiss them. I know of at least 3 people dismissed from CS for inefficiency/poor attendance, 2 in same office within 2 yrs.