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Black Dog of Depression - can we help each other?

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  • willa
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    Going out for an Indian meal with Hubby, haven't been out the house for two days, been in limbo world for while so looking forward to it.
    I really need to get out more.
    Looking forward to a change of scene at Christmas with family.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

    ':eek: Beam me up NOW Scotty!'


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  • I feel abit better today....

    I told my mum about the abuser/SO on Facebook, but as I was telling her I started shaking alot (as if your nervous type of shaking but a bit worse). I feel awful for telling her, but I felt she needed to know.

    Also voices are driving me mad.... ''your mates dont want to go with you cause your a freak, youd be better of not here'', it is driving me mad....

    Going to see a Panto tomorrow, with John Barrowman in it, I am not at all excited (trust me before, I'd be bouncing off the walls before) about it, but trying to put a front on for me mum.

    Yesterday, I found it hard to cope, and self harmed myself, I just finding it hard, knowing scum are out there and can mingle with the community while the victums are left suffering...
  • willa
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    Darknesshayz, I don't know what form your voices take, I've had lifelong probs with intrusive and repetitive distressing thoughts. Only recently diagnosed with OCD but I knew I had it anyway.
    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

    ':eek: Beam me up NOW Scotty!'


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  • well this weeks been utter crap

    my mil & fils dog turned and had to be put down

    ive just said goodbye to my mum and dads dog who i love to bits

    ive lost my wedding ring which we only managed to get with mils tesco vouchers we took an insurance policy out on it but it doesnt cover loss

    i had to go to the hospital today and perform in a play twice yesterday

    tuesday i had to endure a morning full of my sister treating me like crap whilst trying to pretend nothing was wrong for the sake of my grandma whose 80th birthday it was

    im all mixed up about sandy

    im a mixed up full stop

    ive got to attend possibly the saddest family party ever tomorrow
  • Unity wrote: »
    I must admit to having qualms about any so called 'cure' like NLP, where qualifications can be easily obtained, often by correspondence course and sometimes in just five days:eek: according to some advertisements.

    I can see where you are coming from and too find it disturbing although I am wondering how long you expect someone to study before going into practice

    That there appears to be no governing body to regulate, or control whom sets up as a practitioner is extremely worrying. Unfortunately it is easy to see it as a lucrative pseudo-profession where the exploitation of some of the most vulnerable members of society can easily occur.

    Also true. though few people really make it that lucrative because without results clients soon dry up

    More perturbing is the lack of any cohesion between the various 'expert' groups in NLP. A useful article can be found here: http://www.nlppractitioner.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=146

    All sorts of medical treatments lack cohesion amongst practicioners. personally I dont see it as completely bad. if we all 100% agreed with every one else I would be worried.

    I also think the following quote is quite useful: "NLP has been largely ignored by conventional social science because of issues of professional credibility and insufficient empirical evidence to substantiate its models and claimed efficacy. It appears to have little impact on academic psychology, and limited impact on mainstream psychotherapy and counselling". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming

    Until NLP is researched and (if truly found beneficial) offered on the NHS by practitioners who are firstly qualified physicians (with all the necessary background police checks completed) I too will be giving it a wide berth since it seems to be yet another case where "A little learning is a dangerous thing" :rolleyes:.
    You might like this link http://www.nlp-pr.co.uk/news/nhs.htm as the NHS seems to think NLP is fine for its executives
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  • bundly
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    At bedtime we have a story cd, something along the lines of The Owl who was Afraid of the Dark, Spiderwick Chronicles, The Wind in the Willows. I was shocked how little of the story I heard, before being soundly asleep.

    I have been doing exactly the same thing for years and it works a treat. The trick is don't try to get to sleep - try your hardest to concentrate on the story. You will then forget your troubles and sure enough fall asleep.

    Now the bottom has fallen out of the cassette market, you can pick up a really cheapo cassette recorder and buy story tapes (adult ones I mean) really cheap on Ebay. I have recently bought a new batch of 25. I then put away the old lot until I have forgotten the stories then bring them back in after a few years.
  • LadyMorticia
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    I think that's in life there are a lot of coincidences and sometimes things are just hard to prove or are not what they seem so I'm going to give Sandy the benefit of the doubt.

    Even if Sammy and Sandy are the same person, to want/need attention in that way means that she needs help of some sort.
    I'm not saying that they are the same person. Just hypothetically.
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  • LadyMorticia
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    willa wrote: »
    I see your point LadyMorticia.
    I probably shouldn't have said anything and kept my own feeling about it private.
    Everything just seemed to go dormant here after the bombshell, and I, in my OCD way probably, like to try to get things sorted and jump in Mars in Aries blazing.
    Sandy, your IP wasn't detectable for some reason, according to abuse, when we were concerned about you before.

    Don't worry about it Willa. :)
    This is a place where you should be able to say how you feel. :)

    I guess I just don't like to see the bad in anyone, which is why I always give the benefit of the doubt (which I admit has got me hurt a few times.:o)
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  • LadyMorticia
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    crazy_girl wrote: »
    chufty badge is a sarcastic way of saying 'well done' as in 'do you want a prize for that?' chufty on its own means getting a bit too excited as in 'youre having a chufty about that arent you?'

    Ooo I learnt something new. :D
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  • Edinburghlass_2
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    edited 14 December 2009 at 2:35PM
    This is one thread on one board on a moneysaving website that Lambwolf very kindly started as a chat/support thread so please, everyone, lets not see this thread closed due to arguments and discussions that have no place here. I think this thread is particularly helpful at the moment due to the Festive season approaching and the dread that this brings to many.

    From the first post...
    LameWolf wrote: »
    Hello Friends

    It's silly o'clock as I type this, but I've been lying in bed unable to sleep, and it occurs to me that there's not a Depression thread yet.

    I think those of us who suffer this can help each other. I'd like to think so, anyway; I do know that, as a MoneySaving forum, it is relevant for those of us who go a bit OTT with the spending when the Black Dog has us. I know I do - I spend far and away too much on alcohol.

    Depression is as much a disability as the physical stuff (of which I do have some also, I have lupus) but it is so sad that it is seen as something you can "pull yourself together" from. Etc, etc. If you've read this far, you know that it doesn't work that way.

    OK, to get to the point..... I have had severe depression from very early in life (diagnosed at the age of 12, I have been on various anti-d's for the last 37 years) and I'd like to offer a "paw" of friendship to others in the jaws of the Black Dog.

    I can't, obviously, wave a magic wand and solve all your problems, but I do think that we can perhaps share coping strategies, and maybe provide some mutual support.

    Also can you all remember please that medications and treatments shouldn't be discussed and if anyone is feeling very down then please use the Samaritans website here http://www.samaritans.org/
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