Japanese Akita eats cats

suki1964

[ we can tell her if we think they'll be good enough [/quote]

I beg your pardon?????????????????


Like who the hell are you to decide if what she does is good enough??????????????????

Get over yourself. Where the hell does the OP "BRAG"? Dont forget this is the written word, you have no real idea of how the post was meant to have come across. Myself, I read it as a concerned poster asking for advice aaaand untill the op is in front of me talking to me face to face I shall give her the benefit of the doubt.

What I wont presume to do is to JUDGE

suki1964

UKTigerlily wrote: »

What gets me is the OP is on holiday & we don't know if the Dog is kennelled or with a sitter, if with a sitter do they know what it's like!

So its not actually anything to do with you me or anyone else where the dog or owner are right now is it?

shirlgirl2004

suki1964 wrote: »

[ we can tell her if we think they'll be good enough

I beg your pardon?????????????????


Like who the hell are you to decide if what she does is good enough??????????????????

Get over yourself. Where the hell does the OP "BRAG"? Dont forget this is the written word, you have no real idea of how the post was meant to have come across. Myself, I read it as a concerned poster asking for advice aaaand untill the op is in front of me talking to me face to face I shall give her the benefit of the doubt.

What I wont presume to do is to JUDGE[/quote]

Quite clearly as the OP has let the dog escape and kill twice then she doesn't know how to secure the garden. As you say she came on asking for advice.

Lets see. How about this scenario. You have a piece of work for university that you have to do. You don't know if it will pass. I say "Pass it here and I'll tell you if I think it's good enough!" That is a perfectly reasonable thing to say if I have the experience to pass judgment.

I own 6 dogs and others on here own dogs including Akitas. I think that means we have enough experience between us to judge whether any changes are likely to be effective. Clearly the OP wouldn't know because A) she wouldn't have asked for advice in the first place and B)the dog wouldn't have escaped at least twice already. Any respect for the OP dwindled when I read that it had happened twice outside of her garden. Regardless we offer help!

UKTigerlily

suki1964 wrote: »

So its not actually anything to do with you me or anyone else where the dog or owner are right now is it?

The whole thread is not actually to do with anyone else, your point is?

aliasojo

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

As you say she came on asking for advice.

Yes. The best advice on how best to handle the situation. Not specifically about the building or securing of fences.

Lets see. How about this scenario. You have a piece of work for university that you have to do. You don't know if it will pass. I say "Pass it here and I'll tell you if I think it's good enough!" That is a perfectly reasonable thing to say if I have the experience to pass judgment.

I agree this is a reasonable point. However your comment..

"I don't think the OP will do anything to prevent this happening again because it sounds like she just wanted to bragg about what her dog does. Of course if I'm wrong she can always post photos of the improvements she's made and we can tell her if we think they'll be good."

...isn't anything other than judgemental and condescending.

I own 6 dogs and others on here own dogs including Akitas. I think that means we have enough experience between us to judge whether any changes are likely to be effective. Clearly the OP wouldn't know because A) she wouldn't have asked for advice in the first place and B)the dog wouldn't have escaped at least twice already. Any respect for the OP dwindled when I read that it had happened twice outside of her garden. Regardless we offer help!

It's good that people are offering help and suggestions. It's just a shame the help cant be offered without all the emotive rubbish that comes with it.

shirlgirl2004

Aliasojo

Securing the property to stop the dog escaping is the answer to the problem! Surely you can see that?

Yes maybe my reply was condescending but TBH I'm not entirely sure it isn't all a wind up. Can someone really be so naive as to not to be able to work out a solution for themself? "My dog escapes and kills cats what can I do?" Answer "Make sure it doesn't escape!" Really it isn't that difficult. If the OP is that inexperienced with dogs then she shouldn't own such a large, powerful breed.

aliasojo

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

Aliasojo

Securing the property to stop the dog escaping is the answer to the problem! Surely you can see that?

Please, please dont be condescending to me. I understand this is something you feel strongly about but your strong emotions over this subject are beginning to overshadow your good manners.

I can only see that securing the garden is one answer to this bad situation. This will only address the issue of attacking cats whilst escaped, it will not help cats who enter the garden so it would be wise to consider other solutions in conjunction.

Yes maybe my reply was condescending but TBH I'm not entirely sure it isn't all a wind up. Can someone really be so naive as to not to be able to work out a solution for themself? "My dog escapes and kills cats what can I do?" Answer "Make sure it doesn't escape!" Really it isn't that difficult. If the OP is that inexperienced with dogs then she shouldn't own such a large, powerful breed.

Imo, there is no 'maybe' about it. And yes, people can be very unthinking/foolish/dumb call it what you will. Some people do need things pointed out to them, no matter how obvious they may be to others. In my experience the best way to help people do better, is NOT by insulting them, making assumptions about them or judging them.

I do agree with your last comment. Perhaps this breed of dog was not a wise choice for the OP.

shirlgirl2004

Ah you see I differ I don't believe the OP should have to do anything about protecting cats in her garden. Presumably all the attacks have not happened over a short period of time and so cats coming into her garden cannot be a regular thing. Generally cats are pretty clever. Certainly cats know which parts of my garden my dogs can't get into and tend to sunbathe there. I never see them in the areas the dogs use. I can't believe there can be a person in the neighbourhood that wouldn't have heard about this dog, so other than warning new neighbours if they have a cat I don't think there's much the OP can/should do.

patchwork_cat

We all seem to be missing something said by IainK- my dog has killed a few cats - so what. You are a disgrace as a dog owner. And yes as I said before I too am a dog owner - you have an irresponsible attitude. I also disagree about that hasn't turned them into killing beasts it is the start and where does it stop. You could well have your dog put down by the RSPCA, asa dangerous dog, if one of the cat owners kicked up enough stink.

aliasojo

shirlgirl2004 wrote: »

Ah you see I differ I don't believe the OP should have to do anything about protecting cats in her garden. Presumably all the attacks have not happened over a short period of time and so cats coming into her garden cannot be a regular thing. Generally cats are pretty clever. Certainly cats know which parts of my garden my dogs can't get into and tend to sunbathe there. I never see them in the areas the dogs use. I can't believe there can be a person in the neighbourhood that wouldn't have heard about this dog, so other than warning new neighbours if they have a cat I don't think there's much the OP can/should do.

Although I do think the garden IS a different situation...the players are the same iyswim. So if a dog is inclined to chase/attack/kill cats, it will do it wherever it can and therefore I think it better that as many steps as possible are taken to disuade this dog from cat chasing anywhere in the future. I think importance has to be placed on all aspects of this and not treat the garden differently. Imo. I think the OP has a duty (especially now the dog has savoured the chase and been rewarded by the catch) to try to stop the dog from doing this, anywhere.

However I freely admit to being no expert and I think this is what the OP needs...expert advice. It seems to be too emotive a subject to be discussed in a calm straightforward way and although there are many good, experienced dog owners on here, I think a trainer/behaviourist would be a good source of advice for the OP to consider. The only thing I think we can all agree on is that this must be treated seriously and cant happen again.