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  • Absolutely Mutter, I know its slightly off tangent but,when we did research about our dog we were told to have on the lead ALL the time in a public place and have a secure run,also for my bengal(this goes for the others I have had in the past also),we were told that they shouldn't go out,(not that I think cats should be kept indoors necessarily),but the breed is very dominant and can cause fighting,aggression and carnage if the cat has this tendency,AND they are valueable and get nicked from people when let out!

    The bengal is a cross between a wild asian leopard cat and an american tabby,tabby for temperament, asian leopard for coat/pelt,this is and could become a dangerous trait if a wild cat/hunter tendency gets loose!

    My experience of the breed is of a stunning,loving,dog like personality that has no negatives but, I have folllowed the rules given to me, by not 1 but many bengal breeders,as with akita breeders these people do not generally say things for no reason,most are responsible people giving sensible advice to the best of their knowledge!

    Thanks for your comments Mutter,Happy New Year to All!!
  • ixwood
    ixwood Posts: 2,550 Forumite
    Maybe you should lock the gate? Some people....
  • aliasojo
    aliasojo Posts: 23,053 Forumite
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    Yet another thread where assumptions have been made. :rolleyes: Is it really so hard to just read what has been written without adding slants to it?

    "Who was it in your family taught the dog that chasing cats out of your garden was something she would be praised for? Somebody did, didn't they"

    As for the title and the jokey response that seems to have got folks backs up....the OP was responding to a jokey comment made to him/her first. That's a natural reaction imo. Most people wont retort to a joke in a serious manner. Also perhaps the OP is just the type of person who makes inappropriate jokes or naturally has a particular jokey style of posting or speaking? It doesn't necessarily mean he/she is treating the situation itself any less seriously now. Yet people are assuming that this is the case. I know several people who do this, I find it annoying tbh but I accept that the way in which they put things doesn't always reflect their feelings on the subject, accurately. Of course, having said that, the OP could well just be treating this far too lightly and does think it's ok to joke about. (God forbid!) The point is though, we dont know, so why jump on something in an emotional way, that's possibly not reflective of what you are assuming it to be?

    Anyway back to the topic.....only answer is to be in control at all times. 'Control' can mean different things for different situations, imo. Supervise whilst dog is in garden, possibly consider use of garden spike and long lead? This might give a chased cat room to escape perhaps and would stop dog from escaping whilst still allowing it some freedom to wander the garden? Deal with gate situation by use of lock or automatic closer. Get sign made asking people to close gate because of dog. Consider all fencing options. Whatever you do, you need to accept that you have to be VERY pro-active in your dog ownership from now on. An important change has happened and you will never be able to treat your dog in the same relaxed way you used to. You will always have to be aware and focused.

    Apart from the natural emotive comments made, there has been some good advice so take it seriously, this IS a bad situation.
    Herman - MP for all! :)
  • RacyRed
    RacyRed Posts: 4,930 Forumite
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    If my guess is wrong I'm sure that the OP will say so on her return, or maybe we will never know.

    It does not detract from the fact that many dog owners see cats, squirrels etc as "fair game" and encourage a chase. In our very large local park I see far too many examples of irresponsible dog owners not considering the possible implications of their actions when they allow their dogs to terrorise the local wildlife and even other people's pets.

    Judging from the reactions I may have hit a nerve with this one? I love and have lived with both cats and dogs, so have no axe to grind here.

    Surely the important thing to remember is that all animals have value and we should all try to teach our pets to leave other animals alone. Yes, in some instances this is impossible but realising that our own pets have this tendency and considering what that could lead to if we do not do what we can to control it must surely help make better pet owners of us all?
    My first reply was witty and intellectual but I lost it so you got this one instead :D
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  • aliasojo
    aliasojo Posts: 23,053 Forumite
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    RacyRed wrote: »
    Judging from the reactions I may have hit a nerve with this one?

    Oh yes, you have with me, without doubt.

    Only perhaps not the one you think. I have huge issues with people making assumptions. Most communication issues arise from people who dont stick to the information given and, decide instead to try to read between the lines, somehow thinking they really have a handle on the situation, when in reality all they have done is make something up.

    I do agree with your latter point, some owners do have irresponsible reactions to their pet chasing other animals and some owners do positively reinforce this in the mind of the animal simply from their reaction. However there is nothing in the OP's posts to suggest this was ever the case here and to suggest it, is nothing more than inflammatory assumption.
    Herman - MP for all! :)
  • Mrs_pbradley936
    Mrs_pbradley936 Posts: 14,571 Forumite
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    I don’t think that most people need to encourage their dogs to chase or to fight or do whatever is causing the problem because some dogs love to chase and fight. Some breeds are far easier to own than others. Years ago I went with a friend to pick up a Weimaraner that was being rescued (my friend did volunteer work for the breed). It was a very boisterous 14 month old dog. Quite frankly he was a nuisance and I did not feel as if the dog was being rescued as much as a very nice family. The woman said “I don’t know why he is like that, we have never ill treated him but you cannot go to the park without him going for other dogs or chasing kids on bikes”. Had this family bought another breed they would have been happy normal dog owners because not all breeds require the amount of training and socialising that dominant breeds do. Had the breeder been honest with this family they might not have bought a Weimaraner at all – they might have bought something far more docile and had a “normal” pet.

    This is a hard topic to raise with Weimaraner owners because they will all tell you that their dogs are wonderful. They forget to say that they devote hours on end to training and most likely know that they have to let the dog know who is in charge from very early on. Most pet owners know nothing of the sort, they want a dog that will be a good companion, fetch a ball etc in return for a place by the fire and two good meals a day.
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    More Miss Daisy,feeding the ducks!
  • UKTigerlily
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    More Miss Daisy,feeding the ducks!


    Send her to me!
  • I think she might cost alot through the post,shes heavy you know!!
  • jenhug
    jenhug Posts: 2,277 Forumite
    Sorry I havent read every page!! Has anyone suggested making a double gate system like they have at zoos? If she only gets out when someone leaves the back gate out it would be an option and not too expensive (you would walk through one gate into a small holding area shut that gate then open the other.

    Another alternative would be if your garden is big enough fence off a section just for her and if you want her to have full run make sure she is supervised.
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