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  • Silencio_2
    Silencio_2 Posts: 39 Forumite
    edited 8 May 2009 at 12:45PM
    sportfan wrote: »
    Lol I wouldnt hold them to that phone call - probably wont happen! - talking from experience!
    Well I'll call back around 3pm when I finish work...

    I tend to do that anyway, as you never can trust people to call back. lol!

    I've been through everything else... I hope to god they haven't lost my CRB or any other details.

    I just want to start and know I have a secure job and a living wage. :confused: I am struggling to make ends meet in my current situation.

    I am just so fed up with everything being so long and complex. lol
  • Sorry to chop up your post, but you've hit the nail on the head and you definitely need to be able to adapt quickly to frequent changes if you are going to survive. At least you are going in with your eyes open! ;)

    Luckily I thrived on change and only left after 20 years because I'd done all the jobs that were around then that I fancied! :D

    LOL yeah maybe they should add another competency to the process. Perhaps the recruiters have a competency like this lol.............

    "
    How to make a mountain out of molehill


    You must demonstrate the ability to take a 4 day recruitment process from industry, commerce or retail and transform it into a 3 to 12 month process.

    You must demonstrate paying lip service to customer service regarding applicants.

    You must utilise all forms of communication in the application process. For example; save time and increase efficiency by using an online application preliminary sifting process, then use the postal service for a vital part of the selection process, for example CRB checks.

    You must also ensure that an applicant who has applied to similar positions in similar exercises, has to complete all the required documentation regardless of the number of times they have to repeat this.

    You must ensure that Disclosure Scotland has many CRB applications as possible to prevent any possibility that it may become an efficient and useful provider of its services.

    It is expected that the successful candidate, will be able to demonstrate that by adhering to this competency that the DWP, Shared Resources and Disclosure Scotland will become so overwhelmed and understaffed that it will create another 2,783,542 temporary posts nationally and hence remove unemployment from the economy."

    :rotfl: wot am i on 2day haha
  • barneythedog
    barneythedog Posts: 63 Forumite
    and on that Note I think i'd rather be Gordon Browns' plumber - you get paid twice for the same job!

    Would hate to be his cleaner though £6k per year and all that office equpment to dodge!

    as my old dad used to say! Politicians are like nappies, every so often they have to be changed for the same reason!
  • and on that Note I think i'd rather be Gordon Browns' plumber - you get paid twice for the same job!

    Would hate to be his cleaner though £6k per year and all that office equpment to dodge!

    as my old dad used to say! Politicians are like nappies, every so often they have to be changed for the same reason!

    :rotfl:@ the Politicians and nappies...never heard that before hehe

    As for Gordo...I do sometimes wonder if Teflon Tony was clairvoyant and knew what was coming? I mean he jacked in the PM job and is earning millions now...shame the economy will mean it will be worth only a tenner in a years time lol

    Mind you, did we have to be clairvoyant to see that some pooh was ahead?
  • barneythedog
    barneythedog Posts: 63 Forumite
    Fortunately as i have a little time on my hands - awaiting start date etc its good to keep abreast of how the people we've elected are behaving! This probabaly isn't the thread to "go off on one" about MPs expenses etc and I have allready been on the BBC website and " had my say" so to speak.

    Mean tiem back in the wonderful world of DWP waiting list......
  • Karins
    Karins Posts: 83 Forumite
    Hi lots of issues raised so I wil try and answer a few
    test results determine the level of vacancy you can be interviewed for but the scores are not part of your overall ranking.
    you are marked on 4 competencies - if you fall below a certain mark for one of them then you will be unsuccessful even if you were great in the other 3
    once interviews are complete all successful candidates are ranked according to interview score
    Districts declare their vacancies and these will be filled from the people at the top of the list however numbers of jobs available are changing on a daily basis which is why a waiting list is maintained
    all paperwork is dealt with by HR and work is underway to increase the resource and speed up the process (particularly with regard to CRB) but you have to remember this is a country wide recruitment they are dealing with.
    The person that asked about Capita - they are taking on administration of assessment centres in some parts of the country although as far as I know the actual interviewing will still be undertaken by JCP staff
    Even once all the checks are done some offices are waiting for building alterations to be carried out, desks and equipment to arrive and training to be in place before they can take new staff in

    Hope this helps a few of you
  • barneythedog
    barneythedog Posts: 63 Forumite
    Karins wrote: »
    Hi lots of issues raised so I wil try and answer a few
    test results determine the level of vacancy you can be interviewed for but the scores are not part of your overall ranking.
    you are marked on 4 competencies - if you fall below a certain mark for one of them then you will be unsuccessful even if you were great in the other 3
    once interviews are complete all successful candidates are ranked according to interview score
    Districts declare their vacancies and these will be filled from the people at the top of the list however numbers of jobs available are changing on a daily basis which is why a waiting list is maintained
    all paperwork is dealt with by HR and work is underway to increase the resource and speed up the process (particularly with regard to CRB) but you have to remember this is a country wide recruitment they are dealing with.
    The person that asked about Capita - they are taking on administration of assessment centres in some parts of the country although as far as I know the actual interviewing will still be undertaken by JCP staff
    Even once all the checks are done some offices are waiting for building alterations to be carried out, desks and equipment to arrive and training to be in place before they can take new staff in

    Hope this helps a few of you

    Karins.. thanks for the reply to the various questions and comments made on this thread. Think were all a little annoyed at the time taken etc and all have a various stories and experiences we can pass on. For the record i have found the recruitment department at Newcastle very helpful when I eventually get through and can appreciate the workload they have at the moment! I now have confirmation that my checks have been completed and my file has been passed to the job holder to contact me directly. ( phone poised and ready to be answered - within three rings! ). Is it possible to contact the Business Unit/job holder to advise them I'm available immediately or is it safe to assume they are aware of this? My adviser at my JC tells me they have only had three new members of staff since the recruitment drive and are "crying out for staff" - her words not mine!

    Regards
  • Karins wrote: »
    Hi lots of issues raised so I wil try and answer a few
    test results determine the level of vacancy you can be interviewed for but the scores are not part of your overall ranking.
    you are marked on 4 competencies - if you fall below a certain mark for one of them then you will be unsuccessful even if you were great in the other 3
    once interviews are complete all successful candidates are ranked according to interview score
    Districts declare their vacancies and these will be filled from the people at the top of the list however numbers of jobs available are changing on a daily basis which is why a waiting list is maintained
    all paperwork is dealt with by HR and work is underway to increase the resource and speed up the process (particularly with regard to CRB) but you have to remember this is a country wide recruitment they are dealing with.
    The person that asked about Capita - they are taking on administration of assessment centres in some parts of the country although as far as I know the actual interviewing will still be undertaken by JCP staff
    Even once all the checks are done some offices are waiting for building alterations to be carried out, desks and equipment to arrive and training to be in place before they can take new staff in

    Hope this helps a few of you

    Many thanks for that Karins !!

    Glad to read about the test scores relating only to the level of interview. That is what I had thought but someone said it was part of the overall score and that peeved me because I have had so many tests before a certificate arrived that I think the next one would have been 10% all round !! lol

    I can well understand that the vacancies are changing daily, although I have not watched TV for years and do not read newspapers I am well aware how bad things are from contacts, friends and internet. I dare say that in another environment where recruitment can be a matter of picking up a phone and getting a body to go somewhere...the DWP has a process that has worked successfully for NORMAL recruitment scenarios. It is obviously over-whelmed right now. I know at JCP offices when you talk to staff they would have someone in tomorrow. I know during my experience during the recruitment process I spoke to staff who said they were working weekends for the process but it was more like an overtime thing..because there is no-one available to cover any lieu hours :-(

    I have had tales of the CRB inefficiency for a while. I know people that have been deterred from applying to or have turned down posts (not with the DWP) just because of the "wait".

    It is a general frustration out there with being unemployed. Sure if you are working and have to wait up to 12 months for a post you have a job you do not like but the bills are being paid. Some of the stories I have read here make me think my scenario is not as bad as I thought. But it is only a matter of time before the DWP will have to direct my mail to a park bench or a doorway in the High Street.

    I have worked my butt off for the last seven years working up to 90 hours a week and sometimes 20 hours a day.All the tax and NHS stamps I have put in and all the country can do is pay me £60.50 a week JSA. It is a joke. How do people put up with this? I am a pacifist and a very moral person but I can understand why people rob and mug at times. When I first signed on and took my little sheet with my <What have I done to find work> date on it. The JCP staffer looked at it and said "I think we should be able to give people like you credit....you are trying too hard...you have more on here than most would have in a year..they put down things like...'I went to the shop' ".

    Sorry about the rant lol Really I laugh my way through most situations ...I think they used to callit gallows humour? lol

    But believe me,despite my flippancy I do really understand the scope of the operation. I have heard about the logistics and of the the physical resource infrastructure some locations need. I heard something about Cornwall(?) losing 10's of offices about 18 months ago? Well you can bet your bottom Euro that no-one can just move straight into a workstation.

    Hmmm I wonder if the guy who oversaw that Government efficiency exercise has their head in their hands now?

    I understand that a lot of the people who would have been involved with the process
    were let go? I know that theManagersetc that I have had at interview had absolutely no real idea what was to happen next. Just that after interview no-one wants to hang around waiting for the extra bodies.


    Anyway many thanks for the information. Much appreciated.
  • Karins.. thanks for the reply to the various questions and comments made on this thread. Think were all a little annoyed at the time taken etc and all have a various stories and experiences we can pass on. For the record i have found the recruitment department at Newcastle very helpful when I eventually get through and can appreciate the workload they have at the moment! I now have confirmation that my checks have been completed and my file has been passed to the job holder to contact me directly. ( phone poised and ready to be answered - within three rings! ). Is it possible to contact the Business Unit/job holder to advise them I'm available immediately or is it safe to assume they are aware of this? My adviser at my JC tells me they have only had three new members of staff since the recruitment drive and are "crying out for staff" - her words not mine!

    Regards

    Congrats!!

    I gave up calling Newcastle owing to the fact there seems to be a variance of information? One guy was saying he first called and was told he was 2nd on list, then phoned a few weeks later to see how things were going to find he was something like 50th(?) !! So I will just wait and see, I think all phoning will do is use up more resource. Shame they can't seem to just mail or email the merit position? Still I do not know the process, so it is just wait for 12 months I guess!!!

    Congratulations again anyway....
  • marvin
    marvin Posts: 2,187 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker I've been Money Tipped!
    That reminds me
    As I recall I applied for a positon many years ago (2003? something like that) applied for a position in the Carers section in Birmingham got confirmed offered a position and then got put on hold due to a freeze on recruitment. Never heard from them since. Been employed by Sainsburys since 2004!
    I started with nothing and I am proud to say I still have most of it left.
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