DWP employment waiting list

lili2008

twentypenceoff wrote: »

they sent me several emails saying it, it was the siftability test i did but i also did an essay test, an email test and an interview and group excerices. over several months.

Ah, then that's not the same as the one I did, which was quite recent (easter weekend) and was just the first stage...the online test. Well, it might be the same, but I am far less advanced in the process than you are.

If I get through the first stage, I'll be picking your brains..lol

BuddyBonthenet

lili2008 wrote: »

...BuddyB, yes the wait (6 month waiting list for that post) was explained..but not the wait whereby I am told I have a post and will have written confirmation within days, then get nothing (except, inexplicably, another copy of my test results). That, to me, is just creating more work for the HR admin, as until I have something tangible I'll keep applying. I don't think my situation is that rare, tbh. I know quite a few who're adopting the same approach.

Another thing...when people get results of the HEO tests and start going towards the next stage, there'll be a bunch of people pulling out of EO posts too. This, by the look of the time scale, will be after the 6 month waiting list for EOs (6 months seems typical for London posts) has ended, which will mean DWP have to begin more EO recruitment from scratch. I don't think they've thought about the timing of that, either.

I've been a recruiter in Government, albeit nowhere near on this scale. I know what the poor staff are going through. I think 'my' HR officer deserves a medal for maintaining a professional and helpful demeanor despite the pressure she must be under. But the recruitment system itself has become an unweildy behemoth and I strongly suspect that even staff at the very top have lost control of it now.

Anyway, here's hoping I get 'the letter' next week.

I hope you get 'the letter' next week too.

I had hoped my [STRIKE]essay[/STRIKE] showed the staff at the top level never had control of it - that is the problem! When you start working there you will find out that 'the centre' is being managed by people who make the same mistakes as their predecessors and the majority of them have never worked at local level themselves. The staff at the local level manage as best they can as they always. The recruitment system has become a unwieldy behemoth and that is the result of over twenty years of 'efficiency' savings. The goodwill of the staff at local level is what has always kept the DWP afloat and front facing staff have always had a raw deal. It can be a great job just if you just remember that the centre tells you what needs to be done, but you can decide how it gets done. I also always tried to remember that the people I dealt with couldn't take their business somewhere else and that it could be me or someone I cared for on the other side of the table. Sorry if that sounds naff.:o

lili2008

BuddyBonthenet wrote: »

I hope you get 'the letter' next week too.

I had hoped my [STRIKE]essay[/STRIKE] showed the staff at the top level never had control of it - that is the problem! When you start working there you will find out that 'the centre' is being managed by people who make the same mistakes as their predecessors and the majority of them have never worked at local level themselves. The staff at the local level manage as best they can as they always. The recruitment system has become a unwieldy behemoth and that is the result of over twenty years of 'efficiency' savings. The goodwill of the staff at local level is what has always kept the DWP afloat and front facing staff have always had a raw deal. It can be a great job just if you just remember that the centre tells you what needs to be done, but you can decide how it gets done. I also always tried to remember that the people I dealt with couldn't take their business somewhere else and that it could be me or someone I cared for on the other side of the table. Sorry if that sounds naff.:o

Not at all. If I ever get there, I intend to take the same approach.

Also...I know all about those 'efficiency savings'. I was in the civil service for 18 years and suffered them at every level. E.G. IT and Estate Management contracted out to private suppliers who gave back the bare minimum at a greater cost to the taxpayer than keeping them in-house. It was ALL about damage limitation.

twentypenceoff

lili2008 wrote: »

Ah, then that's not the same as the one I did, which was quite recent (easter weekend) and was just the first stage...the online test. Well, it might be the same, but I am far less advanced in the process than you are.

If I get through the first stage, I'll be picking your brains..lol

umm thanks for the compliment im not sure if i actually have any brains though

:rotfl:

BuddyBonthenet

lili2008 wrote: »

Not at all. If I ever get there, I intend to take the same approach.

Also...I know all about those 'efficiency savings'. I was in the civil service for 18 years and suffered them at every level. E.G. IT and Estate Management contracted out to private suppliers who gave back the bare minimum at a greater cost to the taxpayer than keeping them in-house. It was ALL about damage limitation.

Exactly. A terrible time that changed things for the worse for ever. I was there throughout all the outsourcing and watched so many old colleagues fall foul of the TUPE regulations. At one point I worked in the same office as the Facilities Managers appointed by the private suppliers (none of whom of course retained contracts for more than the minimum period - Group 4 and maybe Rentokil ring bells with me). These Facilities Managers were nice people who really hadn't got a clue what they were getting into and when it came to a lot of the staff they recruited, the phrase 'if you pay peanuts you get monkeys springs to mind'. To be fair things are much more settled now if less efficient, but you will recognise the feeling of frustration when you know a job can be done better.

It sounds like you are going in with your eyes open and when you get there and they realise your background they will grab you with both hands.

lili2008

BuddyBonthenet wrote: »

Exactly. A terrible time that changed things for the worse for ever. I was there throughout all the outsourcing and watched so many old colleagues fall foul of the TUPE regulations. At one point I worked in the same office as the Facilities Managers appointed by the private suppliers (none of whom of course retained contracts for more than the minimum period - Group 4 and maybe Rentokil ring bells with me). These Facilities Managers were nice people who really hadn't got a clue what they were getting into and when it came to a lot of the staff they recruited, the phrase 'if you pay peanuts you get monkeys springs to mind'. To be fair things are much more settled now if less efficient, but you will recognise the feeling of frustration when you know a job can be done better.

It sounds like you are going in with your eyes open and when you get there and they realise your background they will grab you with both hands.

Lol, well I wish they'd hurry up!!

In the Dept I worked, they changed suppliers so often it was hard to remember what they were called, but it was always about 'cheap' rather than 'value for money'. The horrible irony is that those shortcuts almost always end up costing more in real terms. They just look better on the Treasury's books. Oh yes, I'm very used to 'coping through change'.

BuddyBonthenet

lili2008 wrote: »

Lol, well I wish they'd hurry up!!

In the Dept I worked, they changed suppliers so often it was hard to remember what they were called, but it was always about 'cheap' rather than 'value for money'. The horrible irony is that those shortcuts almost always end up costing more in real terms. They just look better on the Treasury's books. Oh yes, I'm very used to 'coping through change'.

Don't you mean 'Engaging with Change' - you need to keep up with the current jargonese! :rotfl:

Molli

Hi everyone
I have just been offered a start date for an EO position at my local jobcentre. To be honest, the whole process has been slow and long and I really cannot remember now what the job involves. I have tried searching under the IRC on the DWP website but the page has been removed so i cannot read the job description. Can anyone give me any information on what the job is going to involve.
I do intent to take the job as I am in a temporary position at the NHS and have only 6 weeks left. The EO position I applied for was for "up to 2 years, with a possibility of being permenant". I am hoping this means I will be given a two year contract. Does anyone know how this works?
Thank you ....

bonsibabe

Molli - I believe they are offering at least 18 month contracts. I applied, and skipped the tests as I did them last year. Had my interview on 16th and was told I would hear within 2 weeks. Still no word but not that bothered. Last interview in August last year I got a letter exactly 2 weeks later saying "thanks but no thanks" but taking the no news is good news view this time. Just hoping I get in this time as I did work for the DWP 7 years ago, was with them for 6 years before I resigned due to hubby's job and being posted. Now that we are back permanently I would love to go back and work there but have applied for the EO posts as I was an AO before and just don't fancy starting off at the bottom of that pay scale again given I was at the top of the pay scale when I left. That plus qualifications = I would love the EO job!!!

Good luck to all who have applied, fingers crossed that I get the job!!! Anyone else apply for Highlands and Islands district??

Molli

I have just called them to confirm I will start on Monday coming. I definitely have a 2 year contract with a possibility of permanent. I am really looking forward to it now.

I applied for this job on 2nd Feb so it hasnt taken that long compared to some people. Mine is Hampshire, Isle of Wight area.