Anyone getting stocked up on food etc just in case?

kennyboy66_2

Generali wrote: »

Rabbit is a rubbish meat in survival situations apparently as it takes more calories to digest than it provides.
. (sorry)

What utter rubbish.
Celery is supposedly the only food that has such low calorific content that it takes more calories to digest.

Generali

kennyboy66 wrote: »

What utter rubbish.
Celery is supposedly the only food that has such low calorific content that it takes more calories to digest.

I preferred Norfolk_Jim's reply.

kennyboy66_2

Norfolk_Jim wrote: »

No, it does not take more calories to eat than it contains but it will drain your body of nutrients in order to digest and utilise it - so make sure you include your veggies. The early trappers used to effectively go on the Atkins diet because rabbits were so easy to catch and hence starved to death while their bellies were full. So eat your greens.

"Rabbit starvation" is caused by the fact that rabbit meat is exceedingly lean and the human body needs fat.

It does not drain your body of nutrients at all and "eating you veggies" is not the solution, unless you mean the high carbohydrate ones like potatoes.

An exclusively protein diet causes the body to produce ketones which are harmful to the kidneys.

Charis

kennyboy66 wrote: »

"Rabbit starvation" is caused by the fact that rabbit meat is exceedingly lean and the human body needs fat.

It does not drain your body of nutrients at all and "eating you veggies" is not the solution, unless you mean the high carbohydrate ones like potatoes.

An exclusively protein diet causes the body to produce ketones which are harmful to the kidneys.

As long as you've got your year's supply of dehydrated food, you'll be OK:

Super Pail Buckets:
3-Hard Red Wheat,
2-Hard White Wheat,
1-Small White Beans,
1-Instant Milk,
1-Pinto Beans,
3-White Rice,
1-Black Bean,
1-Quick Oats,
#10 cans 1-shortening,
1-baking soda,
1-Baking Powder,
1-Iodized Salt,
2-White Sugar, #2.5 cans
1-Beef Bullion,
1-Chicken Bullion,
3 packages of Yeast,
1 Lid Remover.

Of course you'll need to mill your own flour from those grains (red wheat??), plus have a separate source of Vitamins A,D & C.

Personally I can't think of one interesting meal I could make from those buckets on their own, let alone a year's worth. Maybe they are meant to supplement your own smallholding? Also, without a good fuel source most of the ingredients would be useless.

Norfolk_Jim

kennyboy66 wrote: »

"Rabbit starvation" is caused by the fact that rabbit meat is exceedingly lean and the human body needs fat.

It does not drain your body of nutrients at all and "eating you veggies" is not the solution, unless you mean the high carbohydrate ones like potatoes.

An exclusively protein diet causes the body to produce ketones which are harmful to the kidneys.

Yup, The Atkins diet - no carbohydrates so the body strips its own fat supplies inducing Ketosis.

dopester

oldMcDonald wrote: »

Why hasn't Dopester posted on here today? I hope we haven't scared him/her off with talk of Dopester casserole!

(Is Dopester a he or she?)

Savages.

You'll keep your stress levels down, and maintain a better capacity for rational thought, if you can stick to storing and eating foods you are fairly familiar with on a day-to-day basis.

Also you can use some of your store food before expiry date and later replace - which is better that than storing expensive but minging tasting powder stuff you wouldn't want to eat other than in emergency.

Mice can't easily climb up walls to get up in to lofts can they? I'll admit one dog food box I took out from stockpile (to use before replacing) did show some signs of attempted intrusion, but perhaps it was damage from my own fingers when placing the boxes in a difficult to reach store area.

Checking my SAS Survival Handbook, in the Home Front section:

REMEMBER

Rotate cans, so that the contents do not settle and separate. Label each can or packet with a colour-fast waterproof pen, noting the contents and date of storage. Use in sequence - the oldest first.

VITAMINS

Multi-vitamin tables are also a good investment. The body can store up to a month's supply of most vitamins, then health will suffer if they are not replaced. In stress situations they are more rapidly used up. The B family (and minerals, calcium and zinc) are the first to go. Vitamins do not have unlimited shelf-life - check manufacturer's instructions.

Infection may prove the greatest danger and strict hygiene and sanitary practices must be enforced.

mandragora_2

Mice got up into our loft. They're squirmy little beggars. A bit of Christmas cake on the mousetrap sorted them out, though. I'd have felt guilty but for the fact I hated lying in bed listening to the gnawing sounds.....

oldMcDonald

Mice can and do get into lofts. The little !!!!!!s ate through my stash of candles grrrr - thats why I now store every item they may deem edible in tins.

elisebutt65

My dad has to empty traps in the loft on a weekly basis - DS2 loves helping him - wonder where his bloodthirsty-ness comes from????:o It's quite funny when I go to stay hearing the occasional 'snap' in the middle of the night - or just that just me?

My dad used to take us survivalist camping when we were in our teens - mum used to drop us off near the Elan valley and then pick us up a few days later at a scheduled place and we'd all go off with tents and sleeping bags and a camping Gaz - great fun - having to snare things and eat what we could find - I never, ever let him forgt theloo roll though - somethings Ican't go without!!!

Bambywamby

I'm not stockpiling, if food becomes scarce I have three chubby labradors to fall back on.