Turkey horribly off - advice for takign back please

Burlesque_Babe

I can guess the store - there is another thread running about off Turkeys and people taking them back on MSE.

As for washing poultry, I've never done it and I work as a cookery teacher and have the intermediate food hygiene cert. and it isn't mentioned on that at all.

Gingernutmeg

Gorgeous cat, Freddie_Snowbits

BallandChain

Gingernutmeg wrote: »

I'm not sure when the advice to not wash poultry came about, but I've worked in catering for a number of years and in any food hygiene training I've had since the late 90s we've always been told that you shouldn't wash poultry - or any meat, for that matter. The 'science' behind it is that adequate cooking will kill *any* germs/bacteria anyway, and if you wash meat then the drips and splashes will spread germs far more than simply putting the meat in a tin or pan and cooking it. But that's only the current advice lol, no doubt it'll change soon enough

Do you know I had it drummed into me right back to cookery lessons at school that you must wash chicken. I was always careful to wipe down surfaces with anti-bacterial cleaner and making sure I washed my hands afterwards. I can see your point Gingernutmeg as I was always worried about any splashes I may have missed. You learn something new every day!

Edit: Just noticed Burlesque Babe's post about cookery classes at school lol. When we were taught how to cook chicken this was back in the early 80s. Times have changed!

Freddie_Snowbits

Gingernutmeg wrote: »

Gorgeous cat, Freddie_Snowbits

Yous can have him, he came from the Cat resue.

smcaul

Norfolk_Jim wrote: »

Yes, the OP deserves something for the nature of the problem. A special event purchase that can not be replicated. Some vouchers perhaps or a discount - something for goodwill - hardly the stuff that ClaimsRus are going to be interested in, neither do I think my post was suggesting such or would be taken that way.

Speak to trading standards - Yes, because the OP may not be alone. Birds dont get into the state described overnight. The impression I got from the OP is that care was taken to ensure the bird was refrigerated adequately so why had it become in the state described and was it a one off.

Unfit birds - There was a huge, huge, scandal some time back where rejected for human consumption birds were being fraudulently fed back into the human food system - it included catering packs and other portion packs and was a vast operation. It took a big operation to bust it and the brains behind it fled the country and is, I think, still at liberty.
Trading standards cant do their job and scams like that one go undetected unless the public bring things to their attention.
Trading Standards are there to help, that why we pay to have them there.

Some time ago I found some very sharp splinters of wood in a well known brand of gravy granule. There were several and very sharp, which worried me. I wrote to the manufacturer with the offending splinters. Eventually I recieved a stock letter (no pun intended) and a £5 voucher - Which isn't what I'd wanted, I wasn't looking for compensation or angling for vouchers, I was worried about peoples safety. They said it was from a pallett. Just how much pallet was out there for people to choke on. I wish then that I had gone to trading standards about it.

I wonder what the OP thinks of our tiff, amazed I'm sure. But it would be interesting to know how they read the well intended suggestions

Just reviewed my original posting - Lets put your examples in context shall we?

"You will be making a complaint though I hope - Putrid Turkeys are bad for everyone. And perhaps a reasoned letter to a director of the supermarket explaining how it ruined your Christmas would not go amis. You deserve more compensation than the cost price of the bird. You could also speak to trading standards at your local council in case the supplier has been scammed by having unfit birds smuggled back into the human food chain as happened with chicken a year or two ago."

I think it reads quite differently in context, dont you?

Actually I think most of us read it the way you meant it Norfolk_Jim, it is only a couple of well known pedants that tried to turn it into something it was never intended to be.

fedupwithcrap

Sorry but is the OP Yoda? Just read some of their posts....

OP, by all means take the goddam smelly turkey back, but why the hell do you think you should get/
a)compensation other than your money back
b)the cost of your other shopping

bloody hell, what is it with some people??

ps..then get a life!!

Norfolk_Jim

fedupwithcrap wrote: »

Sorry but is the OP Yoda? Just read some of their posts....

OP, by all means take the goddam smelly turkey back, but why the hell do you think you should get/
a)compensation other than your money back
b)the cost of your other shopping

bloody hell, what is it with some people??

ps..then get a life!!

If this is how you genuinely feel about such things, why frequest boards like these? You know, you can get your point of view in a civil and reasonable fashion, why do you need to be so curt and unpleasant?. I could give you some valid reasons why a) & b) above but I feel I would be wasting my time.

Norfolk_Jim

smcaul wrote: »

Actually I think most of us read it the way you meant it Norfolk_Jim, it is only a couple of well known pedants that tried to turn it into something it was never intended to be.

Thanks for the comment smcaul. This is the first time I've made a comment and its become this lively! Had the OP's turkey merely been off I'd have thought a simple return and refund would have been adequate in most cases but the description given was of a turkey that gone far beyond having a suspicious whiff and had apparently begun the process of decomposition.
Unless you stick it beside the radiator, a turkey shouldn't get into that state in that short a time (from purchase to delivery) and as it was wrapped, something must have gone wrong along the supply chain.

I am impressed with the posters who disagreed with me that they are so considerate towards shop keepers that they would have been untroubled by their purchase ruining a once a year family fesstival they had been planning for and anticipating, perhaps for weeks and calmly break out the corned beef until they could nip back to the shop for a replacement turkey for New years instead - a very merry Christmas to them - whoops, missed it
A very happy New Year to them and to all.

Mumto2

I started a thread on Boxing Day as the turkey I'd bought from Tesco's to use that day was off.

Our Tesco's was one which was open on 26th, so I went down (complete with smelly turkey). They immediately gave me £50 gift card and money back for turkey (along with money back for bad chicken I'd bought for Xmas Eve).

I only expected to get my money back, so was impressed with their offer.

There was also another couple in front of me with the same problem though...

THE_LONE_RANGER_4

Seems to me this is revenge of the turkey.
I would be a little annoyed if i was fed up, then stunned ,then plucked and stuffed. My final words as they stunned me would be i hope you choke on me you git.