Thankyou to Mr Bluebadge Holder.

Oldernotwiser

ann_marie77 wrote: »

But then the blue badge should not be on display as he would be breaking the law if the badge holder was not travelling with him.

He could be picking someone up; he could even be collecting a child from hospital!

Oldernotwiser

Antispam wrote: »

Lets not forget also many people were born or got a disability through no fault of there own. Having kids is a choice, far few spaces I see for disabled yet plenty of P&C spaces

Like most things in life, it all comes down to money. People with children spend a LOT of money in supermarkets and that's why they're so overcatered for. Although some disabled people may spend a lot, I doubt that it's anything like the amount.

If they must have thesespaces then there should, at least be an age limit of, say, 5.

marleyboy

I think if it is really as big an issue for a parent, then a badge should be issued stating they are in some way "disadvantaged". We could go as far as issuing "Im old" badges, "not to good at parking" badges and "I'm not walking all that way, "Its raining"" badge.

That way everyone who wants to park, can have a specific spot allocated for them, we can all have a badge that allows us that privilege of parking our cars that incy bit nearer to the shop door. With a spot so wide I could fit a 747 in there sideways, just in case I'm using the double buggy.

Incidently, I NEVER had a problem taking my children shopping in the car, getting them out of the car seats, getting the buggy out and pushing it that extra car space length, even getting in or out of tight spots, without ANY assistance.

Maybe because as a Dad, we feel we are excluded from the "strictly for Mums" spot, then again maybe its because I don't NEED such a space allocated for me. I am as capable as any other Mum to get in the Store.

sweetnskint

i think mother and baby spaces should be scrapped.why should mothers need special parking,discriminating against dads and taking up 'by the door' much needed places.blue badge holders need these spaces but mothers dont.
i think more parking for disabled and elderly,while the young and fit can walk those extra few metres.
Scrap Mother and Baby Parking!

glitterkitty

i dont have kids (yet) but when i was small, my mum and dad never needed extra space to get me in and out of the car!
I do however, agree with my local Asda's Mum-to-be section... i certainly wouldnt like to have to walk across the length of a busy car park when i'm 8 months pregnant... they only have 4 of those spaces though, and about 30 disabled spaces.
My mum is disabled, and it annoys me when we cant get a disabled space because of all the able-bodied people who park in them, then we have to drive round for ages looking for a space on the end of a row so we can have room for my mum's wheelchair.
once, we were going to park in a disabled space, indicating, waiting for someone to pull out and someone else drove around us and cut us up and took the space. We had the blue badge on show, i shouted at them, and he said 'go tell someone who gives a f***'. I promptly went and told the car park attendant (this was asda not too long ago - who have started giving out penalties for improper use of these spaces) and the car reg was called out over the tannoy, the guy had to go back to his car (me and mum had found another space by then, but wanted to see what happened), there was a clamp on his wheel and he had to pay £30 so the car park attendant would remove it.

i thought it was funny lol

MrsE_2

There is NO need for P&C spaces to be near the doors of whatever the facility is, but I do see how the extra space at the side is useful to get the car seat out.
The SIMPLE solution is to put lots of these P&C spaces at the back of the car park, BINGO No one else will try & park there & the parent will still have the extra door space.

Everyones Happy:beer: :beer:

fedupconsumer

glitterkitty wrote: »

My mum is disabled, and it annoys me when we cant get a disabled space because of all the able-bodied people who park in them,

They may have hidden disabilities not every disability is so apparant , people may look perfectly able on the outside but on the inside there is a different matter, disability is more than skin deep. Kudos on sticking to your guns.:money:

poet123

Morty_007 wrote: »

Can't be bothered to quote the actual posts but:

There are FAR more disabled spaces than P&C spaces at all 3 of the big supermarkets I frequent.

Yes, Tesco do a parent and toddler "badge" - window sticker - as part of their baby club which "gives permission" for the car to be in the space. They don't "police" it unfortunately but I have been known to ask someone who is misusing the space to vacate it if I need it and I have never been refused once. (generally get snarled at but if people are misusing the space they generally know they are)

As these spaces are not anything other than a private arrangement with the supermarket and the shopper,and not legally enforcable,noone can be misusing them.

Most supermarket Parent and child spaces these days are accompanied by some sort of sinage asking people to respect that the spaces are for parents with children under the age of 5 to allow for push chair access. If you need to define what a child is for the purposes of using these spaces, you need a lesson in undertanding what the spaces are for.

Pushchairs are usually stored in the boot of the car,so why are wide spaces required? It is not a lesson in understanding what the spaces are for that is needed it is an understanding of why some parents think they need one.

Parent and child spaces are not made available entirely becaue they are close to the store, it gives parents space to open the door wide to get the child out of a car seat comfortably without destroying the paintwork on the car next door and without putting their back out.

It is perfectly posible to get a child out of and into a car seat in a normal parking space without causing injury or damage. All it takes is a little care,but that is too much trouble for many, so lets have a concession:rolleyes:

I would rather the spaces were half a mile from the store in most cases because at least then they wouldn't be used by idiots who feel hard done by that someone is having a privelidge when they don't qualify. Why should a parent/carer struggle with getting their child out of the legally enforced car seat he is in, when someone who is perfectly capable of squeezing out of the tiny gap left by your average sized car parking space parks in a space that is big enough to have that parent not struggle?

Please grow and take some responsibilty,having a child is not about everyone else taking second place.

You wouldn't begrudge me a disabled space if I was disabled. thats only about making things easier for people. This life should be about making things easier for everyone. Why should parents get short shrift?? Because our elders coped? Because we chose to have children?? or is it really just because others are envious that someone is helping us parents out and you don't qualify or are too much of a martyr to say "thanks very much for the help" or because the help wasn't avaliable when you had young children.

Parents do not get short shrift,that is a misconception usually offered by those who went blindly into parenthood without thinking about how life would change,and then wanting everyone else to help out by offerng sops to stop them whinging.

I detest the pig headedness of people who park anywhere they shouldn't; double yellows (unless entitled to), parent and child spaces, disabled bays. Why is is that so many people have SUCH a hard time just doing the blooming right thing!?! It's like a red rag to a bull to some people and it's so unfair on those people it's aimed at to help.

I dont actually park incorrectly or use the bays but when my mother was alive and we had a Blue Badge if wehad been unable to get a close Disabled space I would certainly have used the Parent bay then.

Oh and as for who my comments are aimed at...if the cap fits wear it.
It is abundantly clear that ther are people on this thread who have no children and therefore don't know how hard it is to get a tired child into or out of a car seat. I just hope that the next time I have to park in a normal size space it isn't your car I am parked next to because I might just need to open my door a little wider than the space I have, to get my child out. You would be the first to complain that I should have parked in a parent and child space then!


Happy Christmas

I have four kids.....so the cap doesnt fit me.


Similarly, I have done more than my share of getting tired kids in and out of car seats,and still see no need to have designated parking. I have 2 older and 2 younger kids so these spaces were available when my younger 2 were babies,I was amused by them as a novelty. I did not think I had divine right to one.

With regard to the damage issue,if you cant get a child out of a car seat without causing damage how do you park on other car parks which do not have this sop to modern parenting?. It needs a bit of care,and that is what is sadly lacking in society today,not the "if you can't give in to me then I will make life difficult for you attitude",nor the veiled threat of damage if you don't get your own way......a tad childish?

Antispam

I know where you are coming from. But many disabled people have kids too so are in fact a family and may spend a lot

Far enough many disabled are of retirement age however there are unfortunately many young who were born or have got a disability through life events or inherited a disability

I do think the larger shops should monitor the abuse and it should be made a legal requirement

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Like most things in life, it all comes down to money. People with children spend a LOT of money in supermarkets and that's why they're so overcatered for. Although some disabled people may spend a lot, I doubt that it's anything like the amount.

If they must have thesespaces then there should, at least be an age limit of, say, 5.

sallyc

MaximumImpact wrote: »

I'd just like to say a very big thankyou to the Elderly Selfish man who yesterday decided to park in the only available Parent and child space at my local hospital, even though there were disabled spaces available a few metres away. You were obviously very ill and needed to park those few feet nearer the entrance. I realised this as I sat and watched you finish your cigarette before you sauntered off looking very pleased with yourself. I only hope that when you next have to go to said hospital that you are forced to park as far away as possible from the entrance, after all you'll have time you want to smoke as you walk to the entrance. Having read all the complaints about misuse of disabled bays, my sympathy has now gone out the window after yesterdays incident.

That aside, a big thankyou to the parking attendant, who advised that there was nothing he could do about the said selfish elderly male and that it was regular occurence but then found me a large enough parking space to be able to get my little baby out of the car and to his appointment and also told me not to buy a parking ticket. What a star, if only more people were as thoughtful as him.

Merry Xmas Everyone.

Hi I know that you were cross at the elderlyman. Unless he had a blue badge he could or should not park in the disabled bays.
I know one local Tesco shop has mother and child parking bays right in front of their shop and the disabled bays are much further away. I see the mothers and fathers jumping out of the cars flipping open the push chairs and rushing into the shop this is seen by me trying to get out of my car.
I really love children but I think the younger mothers and fathers these days think they are the priority if they have a child with them.
Yes I am disabled but I have worked all my life very hard and think getting a disabled parking space is not to much to ask.
I have arthritis in my knees and in my back and every step I take is agony the closer I can park to where I need to go the better. Many many people park in the disabled bays are not disabled they park as close to the shops as possible. I know better than to appeal to their better side as they have not consience whatsoever. Please leave us to use the disabled badge when we go out it is necessity to some.