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  • I was not implying that a disabled person does not suffer pain or inconvenience, nor was I suggesting that they choose to become disabled.

    I can understand why a disabled person is entitled to free car parking as it means less distance for them to travel out of a vehicle, I just didn't understand the rationalle of crossing the Severn Bridge for free - they don't have to get out of the vehicle to pay.
  • advent1122
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    So why do disabled people get a discount in the theatre, or other attractions?
  • Antispam
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    So that will exclude many children or adults who dont drive but have a blue badge

    A blue badge is for the holder not for the car

    lokiman wrote: »
    At the risk of attracting a major flaming, here's an idea: if you aren't a blue-badge holder, don't park in a disabled bay

    EDIT I see you removed the post now
  • Antispam
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    Why not, pensioners or students do.
    advent1122 wrote: »
    So why do disabled people get a discount in the theatre, or other attractions?
  • lokiman
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    Antispam wrote: »
    So that will exclude many children or adults who dont drive but have a blue badge

    A blue badge is for the holder not for the car




    EDIT I see you removed the post now

    No, the post is still there. I edited it because I didn't think that my experience was relevant or particularly interesting. As I say, though, everyone should just park in their appropriate spots and not second-guess the business-owner who decided to create different parking bays for different groups of people.
  • Antispam
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    But you reasoning would preclude say a adult parking at a supermarket or hospital to pick up there elderly BB holder mother or sick child. The point I am making is you are entitled to park in a blue badge space if the holder is with you or you are picking them up. It is not for errands though

    I agree P&C spaces should be for young children not teenagers but some supermarkets allow BB holders if there are no spaces available. BB space are a legal requirement P&C are not
  • lokiman
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    Antispam wrote: »
    But you reasoning would preclude say a adult parking at a supermarket or hospital to pick up there elderly BB holder mother or sick child. The point I am making is you are entitled to park in a blue badge space if the holder is with you or you are picking them up. It is not for errands though

    I agree P&C spaces should be for young children not teenagers but some supermarkets allow BB holders if there are no spaces available. BB space are a legal requirement P&C are not

    My sole point is to only use parking bays for their intended purpose. If a supermarket or hospital allows people to pick up blue badge holders, etc, go for it, but ultimately it's not for individuals to take matters into their own hands and ignore the landowners/businessowners. If you can use a space appropriately, use it. Otherwise don't.
  • Antispam
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    But your previously comment "At the risk of attracting a major flaming, here's an idea: if you aren't a blue-badge holder, don't park in a disabled bay" is flawed

    Drivers who are not the owner of a blue badge are entitled to use a blue badge space if its to pick up or take a valid blue badge holder (none driver) to the shop/hospital etc providing they display a valid blue badge and its for the use of the blue badge holder to be taken or picked up

    The landowner if they are providing park facilities to the public have a legal requirement to provide spaces for disabled people whether they are drivers or not providing they have a valid reason as I mentioned above

    lokiman wrote: »
    My sole point is to only use parking bays for their intended purpose. If a supermarket or hospital allows people to pick up blue badge holders, etc, go for it, but ultimately it's not for individuals to take matters into their own hands and ignore the landowners/businessowners. If you can use a space appropriately, use it. Otherwise don't.
  • lokiman
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    Antispam wrote: »
    But your previously comment "At the risk of attracting a major flaming, here's an idea: if you aren't a blue-badge holder, don't park in a disabled bay" is flawed

    Drivers who are not the owner of a blue badge are entitled to use a blue badge space if its to pick up or take a valid blue badge holder (none driver) to the shop/hospital etc providing they display a valid blue badge and its for the use of the blue badge holder to be taken or picked up

    The landowner if they are providing park facilities to the public have a legal requirement to provide spaces for disabled people whether they are drivers or not providing they have a valid reason as I mentioned above

    Yes, I am aware that the badge is for the holder and not necessarily the driver of the car; I was trying to simplify: the point is a simple one. Don't park in a bay that isn't for your intended use: don't park in a parent and child bay unless you're a parent with a child; don't park in a disabled bay unless you use is connected with a blue badge holder. Better?
  • Antispam
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    I know what you were trying to do, you new comment is some what different now

    Original you said "here's an idea: if you aren't a blue-badge holder, don't park in a disabled bay"

    Now you want "Don't park in a bay that isn't for your intended use"

    That is not the same you you initial implied, that's what I was trying to get across. I dont think any woudl disagree with you that a clamp down is wanted but this must not go against genuine BB holders who have a legitimate reason to use the spaces provided. The problem you had was you over simplified this which original precluded drivers of who aren't disabled but carry a bb for the holder to use to either pick or or drop off etc

    I agree with regarding to P&C spaces, it should be used for parent with young children only
    lokiman wrote: »
    Yes, I am aware that the badge is for the holder and not necessarily the driver of the car; I was trying to simplify: the point is a simple one. Don't park in a bay that isn't for your intended use: don't park in a parent and child bay unless you're a parent with a child; don't park in a disabled bay unless you use is connected with a blue badge holder. Better?
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