any idea when the new rules for claiming benefits start?????

uolypool

i never said i wouldnt just i didnt agree with the bill fully and the fact that i didnt like the idea of leving my kids for periods of time unsupervised everyone was so quick to pass comment and judgement ll i wanted was a little advice

jorichste

if you don't want them to be unsupervised, try looking for local after school groups, or maybe take turns with other parents.

bestpud

12 is old enough uolypool - mine did it and I know others who do/have done.

Have a few trial runs to put your mind at rest - it's what we did, as it's nerve wracking when they first start doing it, I know.

They may well surprise you - just give them a chance to show you what they can do! Try and have have faith in them.

Beki

uolypool wrote: »

i never said i wouldnt just i didnt agree with the bill fully and the fact that i didnt like the idea of leving my kids for periods of time unsupervised everyone was so quick to pass comment and judgement ll i wanted was a little advice

i still don't understand why you haven't answered the question about why you can't work during school hours.

single parent or not, if you're able to get out of the house, then you're able to work while the children are at school!!!

angie_baby

People have told you,

work part time - 16 hrs
Tax credits for help with childcare
Do it now before it kicks in.

Thing is with a forum, you will get this. You need to realise as other posters have said, working people have had enough of the benifits system. And people who take the compleate pee out of it.

Im not being horrid.

notlongnow_2

When I was 9 my mum used to go to work at 7am...my siblings would go to high school at 8ish and I would leave after them. I would be the first one home.

In school holidays after siblings left home young I was left alone for the whole of it. Not allowed out unless mum was home(but she worked full time). I was alone from 7am until half 5 ish. Yes it was dull but it didnt do me any harm and have grown up a sensible person.

My mum went to work full time to support herself and me and our house. There was no reason for her to claim free tax payers money from the social.

I feel the same as my mum, If I can work then I shall. Luckily things are much better nowadays for parents with childcare vouchers and many many more nurseries and childminders. However I am lucky as my work hours enable me to be at home in the daytime and I appreciate that this is not so easy for others, but if people know the 'get back to work' deadline is approaching, it gives people plenty of time to look for work.

Conor_3

uolypool wrote: »

I do not wrap my kids up in cottonwool thanks connor but would you leave a kid that has just turned 13 on there own everyday even if only for a few hours especially this things like knife crime and stuff like that being so highlghted at the moment.

Yes and I do, although not every day. My son is quite capable of getting himself home from school and entertaining himself for an hour or two. He knows that if he needs an adult, who to ring.

In addition to that, he's allowed to go to the next town, 12 miles away, on the bus or train on his own to visit his grandparents and he's been allowed to go to the nearby city, 30 miles away, with a group of friends and his older cousin to go to the cinema or go ice skating on several occassions. As the countryside is just on our doorstep, it's common for kids to go out for bike rides in the countryside as well.

Knife crime and "stuff like that" is not as bad as people perceive it to be. I'll ask you this: Have you personally or know someone who has actually been a victim of knife crime or mugging? I don't, even though some of my friends live on one of the roughest estates in the county. However, we've all see the Daily Wail and sensationalist news reports.

So I think that the "reasons" are mostly in your head and of your own imagination.

Conor_3

krisskross wrote: »

Quite frankly if our children had not been capable of getting home from school, getting a snack and looking after themselves for an hour or so we would have felt we had done a very poor parenting job.

For heavens sake it is well within my memory that youngsters left school at 15 and were themselves working full time in an adult environment.

Amen to that. Hell, in my town, kids tended to be in fulltime employment during the summer from the age of 13, usually dishwashing in restaurants or working in fish and chip shops with it being a seaside resort. When quite a few of us reached 10, we'd work as barrow boys. You'd knock up a barrow from wood and old pram wheels, potter off to the local coach park and take holidaymakers suitcases to their hotels for 50p and when they finished their holidays, take them back again. Sadly that was something the PC loonies in the council put an end to as they decided it was slave labour even though we only did it a few hours on a Saturday and Sunday morning and actually earned per hour quite a bit more than our parents in most cases.

Simpler times before the handwringing PC loonie brigade put the fear of god into everyone.

notlongnow_2

Conor wrote: »

Yes and I do, although not every day. My son is quite capable of getting himself home from school and entertaining himself for an hour or two. He knows that if he needs an adult, who to ring.

In addition to that, he's allowed to go to the next town, 12 miles away, on the bus or train on his own to visit his grandparents and he's been allowed to go to the nearby city, 30 miles away, with a group of friends and his older cousin to go to the cinema or go ice skating on several occassions. As the countryside is just on our doorstep, it's common for kids to go out for bike rides in the countryside as well.

Knife crime and "stuff like that" is not as bad as people perceive it to be. I'll ask you this: Have you personally or know someone who has actually been a victim of knife crime or mugging? I don't, even though some of my friends live on one of the roughest estates in the county. However, we've all see the Daily Wail and sensationalist news reports.

So I think that the "reasons" are mostly in your head and of your own imagination.

I agree with your post Conor but can I just add that I sometimes work in Accident and emergency and the amount of knife crime and shootings are far more than what make it onto the news. It really shocked me.

uolypool

i wish id never asked the original question now.conor you have made ur point loud and clear and i have NEVER implied that iwouldnt work during school hours all i was asking was advise like i've already said not to be judged